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Obviously Cho murdered 32 people because all his life he never got the positive attention he needed.

As a society, should we go out of our way to make sure loners and losers are given the attention they need ?

1 posted on 04/19/2007 2:41:42 PM PDT by alcenoo
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31 posted on 04/19/2007 3:06:03 PM PDT by oyez ( The right to owning firearms insures than no one owns you.)
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As a society, should we go out of our way to make sure loners and losers are given the attention they need ?

We should give every loner and loser a Real Doll.
32 posted on 04/19/2007 3:06:43 PM PDT by ribosomal soup
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I am a lifelong Conservative. Until Rush Limbaugh came along, I felt that I was alone in the world. The MSM mocked Conservatives and portrayed us as "freaks" and "misfits."

I never once felt like gunning down a classroom.

33 posted on 04/19/2007 3:06:57 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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He chose to see the ugliness in life rather than the positive. For every action there is a negative and a positive way to view it. He saw the negative, by choice I might add as most people by that age can realize this.

When someone bullies you, you can see it at lack or respect or you can see it as someone drowning in fear using you as support.

Some may say, “Well how can everything have a positive view? How can the holocaust for example have a positive view?”...The answer is it`s that positive view that saved millions of lives. People like Simon Wiesenthal who survived 4 and a half years in three different concentration camps (read that again, that is FOUR AND A HALF) years solely because he only focused on the positive of bringing Nazis to justice, and he did.

That they blame what this punk did on “Mental illness” or “bullying” is complete BULL! He chose his path and I find it quite ironic that he mentions “spoiled rich kids” as his reason for this...It seems to me the only one who was spoiled was him. He didn`t like it that his cowardice wasn`t supported so he lashed out like a baby does when he smashes his toys and stamps his feet.


34 posted on 04/19/2007 3:07:09 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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I have no love lost for bullies. They are scum. If they don’t get a good kick in the butt, they’ll never learn.

And that includes Cho. From victim he became the worst type of bully, one that takes a life.


36 posted on 04/19/2007 3:11:14 PM PDT by Killborn (Age of servitude. A government of the traitors, by the liars, for the sheep.)
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Bullying is a severe problem in America's schools. Schools are not required to implement effective anti-bully programs. Administrators deal with victims by railroading them out while the bully is never punished.

I'm not saying Cho-the-psycho was justified in what he did. The bullying only enhanced and encouraged the psychotic ravings in his mind. Too bad people were too cruel to notice and get a counselor involved when it could have made a difference.

I was bullied in school being the smallest girl in the class. What stopped it was when my circle of friends told the bully that if she hit me, she would have to fight all of us. That stopped it, but today, we'd be labeled "gang members" and expelled.

Common sense solutions or taking matters into your own hands are not encouraged in today's schools. Tell the teacher or the principal and they only make life worse for you. More kids suffer in silence more often than not. No wonder kids beg their parents to be homeschooled.

Until the root cause of bullying is addressed, we are going to see more shootings. The bullying today is not like it was when we went to school. Some of it is downright terroristic in their threats.

37 posted on 04/19/2007 3:14:31 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Gun Control Kills the Innocent...Not the Guilty)
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Kids pick on other kids. The more they cringe, the more they get picked on. As soon as they stand up for themselves, the “bullies” tend to back off. Bullies are essentially cowards.

I have NO sympathy for this loser—and that’s what he was, a big, pimply loser who wouldn’t get it together and make a life for himself. (The rest of his family seemed to have turned out ok, he could have, too.)


40 posted on 04/19/2007 3:23:37 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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Huh. Try being the last baby in a large family.

Happydogx2


42 posted on 04/19/2007 3:27:38 PM PDT by happydogx2 (Let Freedom Reign!!)
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Public school, breeding jerks and psychos!


46 posted on 04/19/2007 3:33:57 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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Solving a personal bullying problem is part of the maturation process. Unfortunately, the NEA recommends taking a passive, run-away-from-it rather than solve-it approach. This insures that no resolution ever occurs.

It appears that when he turned the tables and became the bully this week, students may have taken the same NEA recommended approach to dealing with him: do nothing.


47 posted on 04/19/2007 3:35:24 PM PDT by Jack Wilson
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I was picked on in school. In fact, Flanders Elementary School, Lillie B. Haynes Junior High, and East Lyme High School were a living hell. There were days when I wanted nothing more than to never, ever go back there.

Hey, so that’s what I did when I graduated. I got as far away as I could. I didn’t go out and start killing people. I learned from my tormentors that I would spend the rest of my life treating others with compassion and decency, and if I saw a child getting crapped on by others, I would intervene.

This guy at Virginia Tech deserves one of the most toasty sections in hell. Being “picked on” is never an excuse for abusive cruelty.


48 posted on 04/19/2007 3:40:54 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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From the movie, “A Fish Called Wanda” 1988:

Wanda: I’m sorry about my brother, Ken. I know he’s insensitive. He’s had a hard life. Dad used to beat him up.
Ken: Good.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095159/quotes


50 posted on 04/19/2007 3:54:41 PM PDT by flixxx
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Is it just me or does this guy (Cho) seem like he was seriously and repeatedly molested?
55 posted on 04/19/2007 4:06:01 PM PDT by LuxMaker
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Obviously Cho murdered 32 people because all his life he never got the positive attention he needed.

Welcome to FR. It's not at all obvious to me. Thousands if not millions of kids are teased at school, or get less attention then they deserve and never murder anyone.

56 posted on 04/19/2007 4:06:38 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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Why should we assume that the story of one person is accurate?

Remember the single anti-George Allen person who claimed that he had heard him use racial epithets in college. It was completely unsubstantiated, in fact refuted by everyone else who knew him. No matter, the left ran with it as confirmation that Macaca showed a pattern and now Harry Reid is in charge of the Senate.

57 posted on 04/19/2007 4:07:22 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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Dodgeball did it to him.

John


59 posted on 04/19/2007 4:09:23 PM PDT by Diggity
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I taught a high school student that Cho greatly reminds me of. He was reclusive, he was ridiculed, he was a stalker of a couple of girls, he drew violent pictures - the other students and teachers were afraid of him.

He loved computers and I was his computer teacher. He liked to hang around me. I encouraged proper graphics and built his skills. But then he started obsessing with me. He’d sneak into my classroom, crawling on the floor because he thought we wouldn’t see him and then hide under a counter.

I talked to him (I don’t think any other teacher did) and one day he told me that his father beat him. He showed me his scars and a current wound. Finally we had something we could act on. I reported this to the authorities (I was bound by law to do so). The social worker dismissed the case because he said that parental hitting is part of the culture of the student. That was our ONLY chance to get this kid help and it was refused because of the idiot social worker.

The final days of school/graduation, he was really scary - we assigned monitors to watch him. He’s in college now.


63 posted on 04/19/2007 4:13:23 PM PDT by debg
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Perhaps those kinds of clubs or associations that are for foreign or ethnic students are helpful and I wonder if VT had some sort of Korean club.

On the other hand, there are probably some ethnicities that of course, we’d want a watchful eye on what they do in the United States.


71 posted on 04/19/2007 4:52:38 PM PDT by RGPII
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Jeremy spoke in class today.
77 posted on 04/19/2007 5:48:45 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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This guy was a psychopath. The criminal profiler on O’Reilly tonight said that psychopaths develop at the age of 8 - 10 yrs old. The bullying probably didn’t even bother him.


78 posted on 04/19/2007 5:54:57 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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