From what I can tell from your absolutely baseless implication that I support Hillary (???), is that I am every bit as concerned as you are about the general election and keeping the 'toons out of office. What I have said repeatedly is that if you nominate Giuliani, the 'toons will almost certainly win!
Set aside transient polls for the moment, and let's look at fundamentals:
1. Large numbers of people from two significant GOP constituencies (social conservatives and libertarian conservatives) have told you pont-blank that they cannot vote for him in the general. However angry that may make you, and however much you may rail about it, it is a fact. It is a near-certainty that if Giuliani gets the nomination, a third party candidate will emerge and will siphon off GOP votes.
2. The electorate is very closely divided, and has been for years. From where is Giuliani going to get the votes to make up for the significant numbers of GOP voters who can't support him, plus some more to put him over the top?
3. You may choose to disregard these two facts and gamble on Giuliani (because maybe you believe that people aren't deadly serious when they tell you they can't support him in the general; or maybe because you're somehow counting on a lot of dems to support a pro-war candidate, even though most dems are champing at the bit to win back the presidency for a dem). If you do that, though, at the very least take some personal responsibility for your own poor decision.
Because this business I hear now about how YOU'RE bound and determined to nominate a candidate that I am convinced cannot win, and if MY prediction turns out to be correct somehow it's MY fault that YOU nominated him? It's empty, absurd and comes off as pretty cowardly, to boot.
I responded to your statement that you simply will not vote for Rudy. So as far as I can see, if he wins the nomination, that leaves only one other.
1. Large numbers of people from two significant GOP constituencies (social conservatives and libertarian conservatives) have told you pont-blank that they cannot vote for him in the general. However angry that may make you, and however much you may rail about it, it is a fact. It is a near-certainty that if Giuliani gets the nomination, a third party candidate will emerge and will siphon off GOP votes.
You also need to understand something. What you see here on FR does not represent either so called social conservatives nor Libertarians in general. Polls of both belie that statement. Most even from the RR said they could vote for any of the current top three. So in November, given what is at stake, almost all will be there to vote Republican. Talk is cheap!
2. The electorate is very closely divided, and has been for years. From where is Giuliani going to get the votes to make up for the significant numbers of GOP voters who can't support him, plus some more to put him over the top?
I would guess if Rudy is the nominee, not only will most of the GOP vote for him, since most are conservatives and understand the distinction between him and Hillary, but also from the conservative and moderate Democrats and the independents, all of whom believe that the security of our Nation is important and the left offers nothing.
Because this business I hear now about how YOU'RE bound and determined to nominate a candidate that I am convinced cannot win, and if MY prediction turns out to be correct somehow it's MY fault that YOU nominated him? It's empty, absurd and comes off as pretty cowardly, to boot.
I generally try and post in a respectful manner, but that last statement of yours reeked of absurdity. First, I have never stated any support for Rudy or any other candidate. I have said that there are currently three candidates in the race who can win against Hillary for the GOP, and they happen to be the top three currently. And second, I have said that if anyone refuses to support the Republican candidate no matter who he is, that person is no conservative, as conservatives by their very nature, understand the big picture. So keep you stupid and inane "coward" remarks to yourself or share them with your extremist friends, not me.
You take care.