And the majority of the anti-Rudy Freepers are willing to at least consider someone other than their guy, with the exception of Rudy.
Rudy is an aberration to many of us. To me personally, nominating him would forever change the Republican Party for the worse, and move our nation closer to a socialist form of government.
So no, this isn't about Rudy from my perspective and never has been.
No, it's about the positions and values we would be accepting as a Party if we allow someone with his record to represent our Party.
It is about the total attempt to destroy the top three to keep them from the nomination,...
No, just Rudy, as far as what is happening here on FreeRepublic.
I really, really don't want him.
Further, they want someone with a broad enough appeal to bring in those on the other side and independents who fear the leftism that has completely taken over the Democrat Party.
Historically,the Republican nominee positions himself to the right to appeal to the base, and then shifts somewhat towards the center to attract moderates, independents and undecideds.
Rudy is starting so far left, where do you think he'll end up in the general election?
I understand that the nature of politics is the art of compromise, but we need to start from a strong, right of center position.
I'm not very sure about that, as I doubt they would accept McCain or Romney. I personally couldn't vote McCain in the primary, but reluctantly would in the general. Most here despise all three because they know each will put their social agendas behind other issues.
Rudy is an aberration to many of us. To me personally, nominating him would forever change the Republican Party for the worse, and move our nation closer to a socialist form of government.
For me, not having any particular candidate has been interesting watching the reactions to Rudy here on FR. Much of what I have seen other than his abortion stance is understandably overblown and there is a lot that tells me he would be anything but socialist. He is a strong capitalist from everything I see, but most here look at his gun history in New York and assume he would somehow have the power to do something substantial to reduce the 200 million guns in the Country. Long before that I think that the courts will complete some significant rulings with respect to the power a state has to regulate personal weapons. So that issue doesn't concern me, at least until I hear more. Too, even though his abortion stance is quite liberal (unless it changes during the campaign), I look for the court to review Roe sometime in the near future. That would hopefully move abortion back to the states to regulate as they did before.
But for me, neither of those issues is important for a president. I've stated my list before several times, so I won't go into it again.
No, it's about the positions and values we would be accepting as a Party if we allow someone with his record to represent our Party.
And that is what the primaries are for. But when the general election comes around I expect all conservatives and certainly all Republicans to understand what is at stake for this Nation, and know what kind of leader Hillary would make. For anyone to walk away at that time would speak volumes about their value system, certainly one that I could never associate myself with.
Rudy is starting so far left, where do you think he'll end up in the general election?
Assuming it is Rudy or any of the top three, I suspect they will offer some compromise with the social right, but not too much. Because right now, they don't see their base walking away from them. It's far different in the Democrat Party where the left is in solid control. Our Party is changing its face, not its conservatism, but its face. A lot of things contributed but the do nothing 109th Congress, the sleaze and corruption, the visible efforts to placate the social right with such things as Terri Sciavo and the constitutional amendment efforts that most Americans wanted nothing to do with all contributed.
Mainly though the leadership of the Party sees the vulnerability of Hillary with out of sight negatives and because of the substantial influence of the left, they see that we can win this election with a mainstream conservative candidate who can appeal to mainstream America. To do that, we must break the hold of the far right, and from all the polls I've seen, I'm hopeful. With that part of our base less vocal and less influential, we can bring back the Reagan Democrats and many of the independents to the fold.
Starting from a solid center to center right rather than from a farther right position will, in this instance, bear fruit.
But anyway, we disagree, and I enjoyed the chat. Take care.