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To: DB
This touches on why the isolationist wing (Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul) are so deadly wrong. The world has changed. Rapidly individuals and small groups are beginning to pose more of an actual threat than standing armies. The founding fathers could have never envisioned the destructive technologies to come that could be commanded by so few upon so many.

Just WOW!

Well, the oppossing "wing" to the isolationist Pat/Ron appears in all honesty to be, come one come all, ours is yours for the taking! Frankly, I'll sit with Pat/Ron any day of the week in opposition to this FRee and willing handover.

Of course you complete your circle in realizing that "The world has changed. Rapidly individuals and small groups are beginning to pose more of an actual threat than standing armies.". If what you say is true, and I think it is, then you make the only rational argument for shutting this Country down for a while. Instead, we have liberalized our Legal Immigration to a point that we have no clue to whom we're letting come here, and don't even get me started on the Illegal crap that's allowed unabated. If only 1% of these unknowns are coming here to do specific harm, WE are in for a world of hurt. VT is a shining example on a VERY small scale. Multiply this by say 100 events at the same time on the same day. 100 VT events wouldn't amount to one tenth of one percent of the unkowns we've allowed to "immigrate" to our shores. Chaos anyone? I'm more isolationist every day that passes.

"The founding fathers could have never envisioned the destructive technologies to come that could be commanded by so few upon so many."

Again, just WOW! No FRiend, the Founding Father's knew exactly the type of carnage Man could visit upon his fellow Man, from the individual, to the tyrannical with many followers. That's why our Constitution seeks to empower the individual over the collective, it was the only sensible thing to do. They also knew that the occassional wacked out individual was not to limit the FReedoms of US other individuals. Thank God for the Founders, and a double Thank God for the 2nd Amd.

I'm not sure what you meant by "destructive technologies" except in this context, that somehow you equate the .22 cal or the 9mm used here as somehow more high-tech than say my .50 cal T/C New Englander Rifle. No, I'm thinking dead is dead. Is it that they were Semi-Auto's? That's not exactly "new" tech. In fact it's not too far removed from the high-tech pump or lever action. The high-tech difference being the gas tube.

The only thing I see in your post is a call FOR isolationism and the reasons are well documented in your own words. Isolationism WILL eventually trump Globullism. It may take a while and require good honorable men to spill blood, but Globullism in todays world, yeah, good luck with that. Blackbird.

62 posted on 04/19/2007 7:41:19 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (A vote for rudyputin IS a vote for the hildabeast!)
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To: BlackbirdSST
I was talking about nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Not small arms...

Where a small group can take out a city - or worse...

And no, I don’t believe the founding fathers had any concept of such things to come.

As far as locking up the country. Good luck with that. A freight plane loaded in a foreign country with a nuke won’t be inspected until after it lands - point being - it doesn’t need to land to do its job in any major city USA. An oil tanker filled with oil - with a nuke in its belly - impossible to detect until it goes off in LA harbor or NY or wherever... You can’t ignore the world and successfully lock it out. There are far too many ways into this country, from the air, seas or border. Any of which can be penetrated be a determined group no matter how hard you try. Just look at all the drugs that find there way here...

You only have to fail once and you have a million dead. The odds favor them.

The only hope is to kill them or civilize them where they are before they get here.

67 posted on 04/19/2007 2:32:03 PM PDT by DB
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