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Democrats hold fire on gun control after Virginia shootings
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | April 18, 2007 | David Espo (A.P.)

Posted on 04/18/2007 6:09:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58

After the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid cautioned Tuesday against a "rush to judgment" on stricter gun control.

A leading House supporter of restrictions on firearms conceded passage of legislation would be difficult.

"I think we ought to be thinking about the families and the victims and not speculate about future legislative battles that might lie ahead," said Reid, a view expressed by other Democratic leaders the day after the shootings that left 33 dead on the campus of Virginia Tech.

Democrats traditionally have been in the forefront of efforts to pass gun control legislation, but there is a widespread perception among political strategists that the issue has been a loser in recent campaigns. It was notably absent from the agenda Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi unveiled earlier this year when the party took control of the House and Senate for the first time in more than a decade.

In the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings, a few Democrats renewed the call for gun control legislation, and more are expected to join them.

"I believe this will reignite the dormant effort to pass commonsense gun regulations in this nation," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat who was a leader in the failed drive to renew a ban on certain types of assault weapons that expired in 2004.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., was one of very few lawmakers to defer pushing for gun control in the early hours after the shootings. "There will be time to debate the steps needed to avert such tragedies," he said on Monday, "but today, our thoughts and prayers go to their families."

By coincidence, Kennedy and Rep. Xavier Becerra, D-Calif., are scheduled to attend a demonstration Friday at a firing range used by U.S. Capitol Police to draw attention to microstamping, a procedure by which serial numbers are placed on ammunition casings. The goal is to allow police and other investigators to quickly track ammunition to the gun that fired it.

The two lawmakers support legislation to require microstamping for all guns manufactured after 2009, and aides to both said they planned to go ahead with the demonstration.

Overall, though, said Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., "It is a tough sell" to pass gun control legislation. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., held a brief meeting on the subject to discuss possible legislation, including a proposal for an instant background check for gun purchasers. But there was no apparent eagerness by Reid, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., or her to predict Democrats would lead a drive to toughen existing laws.

One senior Democrat, Rep. Charles Rangel of New York, said gun rights advocates are simply too influential to allow a tightening of gun control laws. "It's a regional thing, it's a cultural thing," Rangel said, arguing that even in areas where 85 percent of the people support more restrictions, the 15 percent minority is far more active and outspoken.

Less than a month ago, Pelosi and other Democratic leaders abruptly pulled legislation to give the District of Columbia voting representation in the House. Republicans were using the issue to try to force a vote on repeal of the capital's handgun ban, and Democrats feared it would pass.

Hoyer told reporters he thought and hoped the shootings at Virginia Tech would make it harder for Republicans to prevail when the voting rights bill returns to the House floor later this week.

He refused to be drawn into a discussion of the longer-term political consequences of the shooting, saying, "All I am saying is there will be a debate. I am not going to enter into the debate today."

Not all lawmakers were as reticent.

Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, one of Congress' most persistent advocates of gun rights, noted that the student who police say was the shooter at Virginia Tech had brought a weapon onto campus in violation of restrictions. He said he doubted a law could be passed that would protect "any of us when somebody who is mentally deranged decides to do this."

President Bush said in an interview with ABC News that he expects a debate on gun policy, but now is not the time.

"I think when a guy walks in and shoots 32 people it's going to cause there to be a lot of policy debate," he said. "Now is not the time to do the debate until we're actually certain about what happened. And after we help people get over their grieving. But yeah I think there's going to be a lot of discussion."

One law enforcement official has said that the gunman's backpack contained a receipt for a March purchase of a Glock 9 mm pistol. The gunman held a green card, meaning he was a legal, permanent resident, federal officials said. That meant he was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of a felony.

Democrats have grown less supportive of gun control legislation as a party in the past decade.

After the shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado, then-Vice President Al Gore cast a tie-breaking vote in the Senate on legislation to reduce the availability of certain firearms. He and other gun control advocates claimed victory, but many strategists believe the vote hurt him in the 2000 presidential election.

Gun control tends to win favor among suburban voters, but it often stirs opposition in less heavily populated areas

So far this year, there has been little evidence that Democrats feel otherwise after winning control of the House by picking up seats last fall in parts of Indiana, Ohio, Texas, Arizona and elsewhere where hunting is popular.


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1 posted on 04/18/2007 6:09:09 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Second Amendment RIGHTS — liberals stay away!!!


2 posted on 04/18/2007 6:16:31 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Graybeard58

Their polling data must show that the public finally understands that a body count of 32 can only come in a gun-free zone.


3 posted on 04/18/2007 6:17:56 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: Graybeard58
Do you suppose the Dems have figured out that this makes gun control look pretty bad . . . after all, guns were banned from campus and it (1) didn't prevent the SOB from doing what he wanted to do; and (2) guaranteed everybody else was helpless.
4 posted on 04/18/2007 6:18:40 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: NonValueAdded

GMTA.


5 posted on 04/18/2007 6:18:56 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: EagleUSA
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

It gets them every time!

6 posted on 04/18/2007 6:20:24 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: AnAmericanMother

Exactly, Mom!


7 posted on 04/18/2007 6:20:54 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: Graybeard58

They are waiting for January 2009. If the Democrats still control the House and the Senate, and a Democrat wins the White House at the same time, they will then suddenly discover that they have a mandate for the gun control that they didn’t mention.


8 posted on 04/18/2007 6:23:06 PM PDT by the lone wolf (Good Luck, and watch out for stobor.)
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To: chaos_5

When I went to U of Texas (many, many yrs ago) more than one of my friends carried a peaceful sidearm to classes (everyday).


9 posted on 04/18/2007 6:24:34 PM PDT by mlbford2 (If you are going to make a hole, make it a big one.)
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To: Graybeard58
Here's why persons with average or better intelligence can read and comprehend that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to KABA.

True or False?

Spoons cause obesity.

Pencils cause spelling errors.

Guns cause crime.

Criminals cause crime.

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If guns cause crime pencils cause spelling errors, matches cause arson and spoons cause obesity. But none of those cause a person to intentionally misconstrue the meaning of the Second Amendment. They that do, do so by choice -- intentionally.

10 posted on 04/18/2007 6:24:48 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Graybeard58
Not at all surprising to find Steny Hoyer becoming an accessory after the fact to Cho.

The guy is a first class ghoul.

11 posted on 04/18/2007 6:25:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: chaos_5

University policies denied the VT students their 2nd amendment rights. Had a few students and faculty been allowed to carry their firearms this would probably have ended very differently.


12 posted on 04/18/2007 6:27:18 PM PDT by csmusaret (Mnimum wage today; maximum wage tomorrow. It's the Socialist way.)
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To: Graybeard58
ITS NOT GUN CONTROL IDIOTS Its mental Illness something you all suffer from! More gun control takes away more of your right of protecting yourself against this kind of anarchy. Disarm the lawbiding public arm the mass murderers. I heard the ACLU prevented psych background checks when you apply for a permit! Nice going ACLU very American of you! Psych background check along with any other checks would tell the story! We are about to here the blame game form these retards once again, not the failed liberal policies that protect the insane over the lawbiding public!
13 posted on 04/18/2007 6:28:21 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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To: Graybeard58
Democrat = Guns kill people and sometimes use people to fire them..

Republican = People kill people and sometimes use guns do it..

14 posted on 04/18/2007 6:29:13 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: AnAmericanMother
GMTA

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Please forgive the ignorance on my part.

15 posted on 04/18/2007 6:31:19 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Boy, do ya know how it feels to run 3 wide?)
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To: Graybeard58
The mental health system which treats mentally ill folks as rational, normal people simply because of their "rights" is far more to blame than guns.

This is an opportunity to fix it.

Gun control as usual is a "decoy issue"

16 posted on 04/18/2007 6:31:42 PM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: LasVegasMac
Please forgive the ignorance on my part.

That's at least two ignorant people here (counting me)

17 posted on 04/18/2007 6:34:31 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: hosepipe
"Republican = People kill people and sometimes use guns do it."

Amen

18 posted on 04/18/2007 6:35:28 PM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: Graybeard58
****Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid cautioned Tuesday against a “rush to judgment” on stricter gun control. ****

It hasn’t stopped them in the past. Remember the panic legislation of 1968 and the Clintonista Assault Weapons joke, er, that is ban.

They will hold off, bide their time, and in the future when they have the votes, strike.

1961. they only wanted to register handguns.
1964 they only wanted to register all handguns and ban bolt action military surplus rifles.
1968.Almost got their wish with the 1968 Gun Control Act.
1971 They only wanted to ban “Saturday night specials”.
1976 They wanted to ban all handguns.
1981 they demanded a ban on handguns and rifles would not be affected.
1989. They wanted a ban on all”assault weapons”.

From then on they have tried every means foul to get their bans on all guns.
Bans on bullets.
Bans on magazines.
Bans on low power inaccurate firearms.
Bans on high power accurate firearms.
Chamber loaded indicators.
Tagants in power.
Bans of bullet shapes.
Bans on stock shapes
Bans on stock materials.
Bans on BIG single shot rifles.
Trigger guards.
Magazine disconnects.

As you see they are trying anything.

19 posted on 04/18/2007 6:36:32 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: the lone wolf
Ditto with a Democratic majority and a RINO as President. Giuliani, McCain, and Romney have track records that show them to be opponents of Second Amendment rights.
20 posted on 04/18/2007 6:37:25 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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