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To: pa mom

The boys don’t irk me, but I’ve been concerned that we’ve all gotten so caught up with the injustice done against them that they’ve become heroes, sort of. They are not that. They made a very poor decision to hire those strippers and said awful things. I DO want them to get on with their lives, but for their own sakes, I hope that they see that poor action on their own part laid the path for what happened. I’m not saying that was their fault; we know differently. But they weren’t behaving as they should have either. I’m very glad that they’ve been declared innocent.


12 posted on 04/18/2007 11:15:44 AM PDT by twigs
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To: twigs

Your first sentence summed it up very well. I haven’t seen much condemnation of the party from those that wished to see them exonerated.


20 posted on 04/18/2007 11:23:52 AM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: twigs
They made a very poor decision to hire those strippers and said awful things.

Seligmann and Finnerty were not even present when the purported "awful things" were said. I say purported because the only 'objective' eyewitness, a guy named Bissey, has posted on another board that he never heard the "N-word". It's not in his deposition, either.

I suggest you at least gain some basic facts about this hoax before further smearing these innocent young men.

26 posted on 04/18/2007 11:29:25 AM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: twigs

They did something pretty dumb, as have most of us. I did some pretty stupid stuff in three years in college—got puking drunk a couple of times, drove friends to buy weed once (but never used the stuff myself), drove drunk more than once. By the grace of God, I never had anything bad happen, other than a few hangovers and a bad case of “man, did I really do something that stupid?”

I agree with you—what happened to them is far, far beyond anything that should have happened considering what they did, but I hope they learned from it. They seem pretty intelligent, so I think they did. (If nothing else, I imagine they’ll be confining their viewing of strippers to strip joints from now on.)

}:-)4


28 posted on 04/18/2007 11:31:42 AM PDT by Moose4 (Today, we are all Hokies.)
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To: twigs
While their fellow students were enjoying Spring Break, the LAX team gave up their Break to stay on campus for team practice.

Their choice of "entertainment" was not particularly admirable but given that they were young red-blooded males w/little outside of practice to do with everyone else gone, understandable...at least, to some less critical folks...and they now know it.

Let's lay off the criticisms; they've suffered enough, don't you think?

30 posted on 04/18/2007 11:31:58 AM PDT by Carolinamom (God is pleased to get knee-mails.)
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To: twigs

In all fairness, conservative political forces were using this case to prove an obvious point to about a judicial system that has gone awry. The fact that Imus was fired when these boys were cleared was rather convenient news wise, in light of Sharpton’s involvement in both situations.


36 posted on 04/18/2007 11:40:37 AM PDT by paltz
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To: twigs

>>>They are not that. They made a very poor decision to hire those strippers and said awful things.<<<

Where is the evidence they hired the strippers and said awful things?


101 posted on 04/18/2007 12:27:24 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau (God deliver our nation from the disease of liberalism!)
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To: twigs
they’ve become heroes, sort of. They are not that.
Jack Kennedy was called a hero for getting his boat run over by an enemy ship.

These young men, supported by their families, have endured tremendous pressure. The only way Nifong was likely to get off scot free from this caper was if they copped a plea to escape from that pressure. Pressure which included intimidating the cabbie who verified one of the men's alibi about going to the ATM.

I hope you never face the kind of pressure they were put under - but if you do, I guaran-double-tee that you will think you were a hero for getting through it.


106 posted on 04/18/2007 12:38:42 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: twigs
Look, have you two ever read a book that maybe you shouldn't have? Seen a movie that maybe you shouldn't have? Said a dirty word that maybe you shouldn't have? Wore a dress or bathing suit that might have been a little risque?

Sure, you're right. They shouldn't have hired strippers, but young people oftem make mistakes. I don't think the mere hiring of a stripper buys you a one way ticket to hell. You guys are a little rough!

108 posted on 04/18/2007 12:43:45 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: twigs; pa mom

Not this crap again. They admitted their errors and apologized. Dave Evans has a conviction on a misdemeanor charge. The other two left the party as soon as they could. Anyone who manages to defend their innocence from the full force and power of an entire state and nation run amok is indeed a hero. If that is a problem for you then your sense of moral proportion needs a tune up.


123 posted on 04/18/2007 1:29:03 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: twigs

I totally agree with your assessment of this whole debacle. They were thoughtless and reckless immature “kids”, not considering the possible consequences of their “party plans.” They were unjustly accused, but set themselves up for it by going waaaay overboard when they hired the strippers in the first place; e.g., when you lie down with dogs.........


241 posted on 04/19/2007 8:51:13 AM PDT by Max7
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