[IrishMike]

Thanks Betsy,

Most here today have ripped me,
almost hurts to sit.

Mike

I write SOP(operating plans)and EOP (emergency occupancy plans) for employees, tenants and occupants of Federal Buildings. Fire Drills and Shelter in place drills are twice yearly tested and practiced. Those are minimal requirements.
It sadly appears VA Tech had no plans, no procedures and ‘winged it’.
Resulting in an horrendous loss of young life.

[betsyross1776]

I could tell you were a professional . Maybe somebody, some where, will listen. When; we don’t know , but someday all your accomplishments will come to light> Have faith , take it from this witch, they will see someday.Especially since we both know you are right.

[MJemison]

I write SOP(operating plans)and EOP (emergency occupancy plans) for employees, tenants and occupants of Federal Buildings. Fire Drills and Shelter in place drills are twice yearly tested and practiced. Those are minimal requirements. It sadly appears VA Tech had no plans, no procedures and ‘winged it’. Resulting in an horrendous loss of young life.

This is the part that bothers me the most. I would think that after 9-11 especially, all colleges, schools, etc. would have some kind of operating/response plan. I wonder how many really do.

[the808bass]

Resulting in an horrendous loss of young life.

This was initiated not by a "lack of procedures," but by a psychotic killer armed with two guns. 20/20 vision only comes from the rear.

If there had "only" been two fatalities on campus, I suspect we would have some talking heads on (admittedly local) news on how campus security could be improved.

[muawiyah]

Got involved in one of those "committee" events for our building (occupied by two different federal agencies).

Just about everybody was focused on possible terrorism or fire. I thought tornado activity had an appreciable risk but couldn't get much attention.

That evening an F5 class tornado wiped out the downtown of nearby La Plata, MD.

We wrote a really good section on tornado action the next day!

It's pretty obvious that the "plan" for VT fell apart pretty darned quick in the face of real criminal/terrorist activity. No doubt there are rules against chaining doors shut as there are for discharging weapons in classrooms. Although we can direct most people with rules alone, there's this hard core who are not so gently coerced. We must guard against them, and prepare to repel them if necessary.

[laotzu]

Most here today have ripped me

I appreciate & enjoy your thread.

It sadly appears VA Tech had no plans, no procedures and ‘winged it’

We don't know that, and it is poisonous for us advocate condemning others based on that. It is only the next day...we still know nothing.