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To: Logophile

acknowlage reality, drop the ‘war on terror’ and start discussing a ‘humanitarian effort’ go to the Bob Dole playbook of concensus building instead of groupthink.

we need to focus support with the Sec Def and to stabilize some poorly implimented plans.

we need to drop the politics and focus on solutions as pragmatists.

I heard Bob Doles comments on the VA today, and found it vastly different than the hubris and arrogance that we are accustomed to, Gates very well spoken, and I find it irritating that at this late date a ‘bad call’, ‘faulty intel’, ‘toutered definitions of torture’, has taken us from the point where once upon a time Bob Dole offered Milosovec a deal to advert a humanitarian crisis, where we were the liberators and the good guys, and our image was untarnished as a nation.

we tried it the way the neoconservatives advocated it, and there is alot at stake in the M.E. and that is precisely why the antics are no longer acceptable.

there needs to be new faces, new ideas, and new language to move this nation forward, as an example catch Gov. Swarz of CA at the Georgetown Unniv.

I’m tired of the amnesia of facts, responsibility, cause and affect, and the amnesia of history.

We need a national effort behind Gates and new leadership to stabilize the humanitarian crisis that has been created and I’m tired of these pimps of discredited verbiage and ideas making that difficult.

And to sum things up.. the political unwillingness to fund the VA, as a simple acknowledgement of the fact that the war has exceeded its budget, the simple act of reality, without the politics seems to be beyond the capability of the current crowd.

Yes the paleocons are fed up, some more gracious (as always) than others.. we need the old guard republicans to step up and STOP MAKING excuses and start some new initiatives and ideas for solutions.

On human rights alone, GONZO should go.. our protestations to Russia sound weak as long as that buffon is in office.

As a republican I’m embarrased, as an American I’m concerned and advocate change.


44 posted on 04/16/2007 6:56:06 PM PDT by InsNerd (Insurance Nerd)
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To: InsNerd
I am having a hard time following you.

I asked you which conservative principles would be advanced by folding to the Democrats and dumping Gonzales. You responded by mentioning Bob Dole, the VA, Milosevic, the Secretary of Defense, foreign policy, the war in Iraq, etc. I do not see how those things relate to the firing of the U.S. attorneys, which is the ostensible reason for the Gonzales "scandal".

By the way, to "drop politics and focus on solutions as pragmatists" is a sure loser. It is all about politics. If the Left proves better at politics than we are, then "genuine conservative values" will be lost.

46 posted on 04/16/2007 7:29:00 PM PDT by Logophile
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