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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; rkba; secondamendment; selfdefense; vatech; virginiatech
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To: twigs

Well after righting that, I got my lazy butt up and made my son his favorite, MD crab cakes.

He was a poster child for affirmative action, no way they’d fire him, they promote him!

He could never even read and pronounce my son’s name correctly, even by the time he graduated with honors and a scholarship.

Very very sad statement for our school system, if I had to do it over, I’d home school, no question.


4,521 posted on 04/17/2007 6:54:08 AM PDT by HonestConservative (Imus called the wrong folks Ho's.)
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To: Howlin

I guess I am a dreamer, silly me. These things take on a life of their own, don’t they? Patience really IS a virtue.


4,522 posted on 04/17/2007 6:54:42 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: bonfire

They’ve had mass amounts of email from me starting the day it was announced they’d hired him. It hasn’t done any good thusfar. :(


4,523 posted on 04/17/2007 6:54:43 AM PDT by publana (yes, I checked the preview box without previewing)
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To: af_vet_rr

Maybe you are right. This whole thing has really rattled me though.

I think VT should build a monument to Liviu Librescu.


4,524 posted on 04/17/2007 6:54:54 AM PDT by Albert Barr (Ut Prosim)
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To: Trust but Verify
Oh, good grief! Maybe because when they tried the doors, they couldn’t open them? CHAINED doors would be evident, even from the outside.

How do you know any police tried to open the doors? Where did this information come from?

It's obvious no police tried to open the doors since no police:

Only faculty and students were injured/killed.

The police all waited outside, apparently. No one wanted to get close to this guy.

I'm not a police-hater or anything, but this appears to be a simple fact.

How many police approached this guy in the five hours between 7:15 and around 12:20 or 12:30 when he killed himself?

Zero.

Ziltch.

Zip.

Notta.

It's a darn good thing the shooter killed himself because who knows what else might have happened had he not.

4,525 posted on 04/17/2007 6:55:05 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Alia

Amen, Alia! Well said.


4,526 posted on 04/17/2007 6:55:43 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: EmilyGeiger

So beautiful,thank you EmilyGeiger.


4,527 posted on 04/17/2007 6:55:44 AM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes; Tiger28

Maybe he bought the gun, put it in his backpack, and never took it out until he used it that day. So the receipt was still in the bag.

And maybe he didn’t take the serial numbers off. I didn’t here official confirmation that the serial numbers were taken off, so I don’t know if that story is accurate or not. I’m not saying it’s NOT accurate, just that I haven’t seen official confirmation yet.

It does seem that buying two guns over the last month or so would indicate a certain premeditation on his part though — but that is again speculation, and I look forward to learning more facts as the case is investigated further.


4,528 posted on 04/17/2007 6:55:57 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: EmilyGeiger

Great post, thanks!


4,529 posted on 04/17/2007 6:56:01 AM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: NCLaw441

Oh, I agree. I just think it’s human nature to connect information with control. I think it’s more about our own need to be in control than the law enforcement community itself.


4,530 posted on 04/17/2007 6:56:44 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Albert Barr

He was a great man and very instrumental in the Holocaust Memorial project

I learned this morning that a classmate of my son lost her father. She’s 11.


4,531 posted on 04/17/2007 6:57:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: HonestConservative

Your son has good taste. I love MD crab cakes. My daughter graduates from college next month and is in a serious relationship. I might suggest to her that she homeschoo. Heck, I’ll do it for her if she wants me too!


4,532 posted on 04/17/2007 6:57:31 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Looks like that site with the “ Mr. Cho” revelation is down now.


4,533 posted on 04/17/2007 6:57:42 AM PDT by Floratina
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Wouldn’t Cho be looking for the new boyfriend at his class in Norris, since he shot his gf earlier than morning?


4,534 posted on 04/17/2007 6:57:48 AM PDT by meg88
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To: bonfire

The “person of interest” was apparently the boyfriend of one of the victims from the first shooting in West Ambler Johnston. He was a student at Radford University (a few miles up the road from VT) and was stopped and being detained on the side of the highway when Cho opened up in Norris Hall.

It’s speculation, but I expect that over the next couple of days, we’re going to find out that Cho had been stalking this girl, or else had tried to date her and gotten shot down in flames. Now why he went to Norris and opened fire on mechanical engineering classes (and a German class, where many of the casualties were), I have no idea. Sounds like this guy wasn’t wrapped real tight.

The amazing thing is, he lived ON-CAMPUS (Harper Hall, I think). From my three years in a dorm, I find it remarkable that this guy could put this together (two handguns and a crapton of ammo) and not have somebody have an inkling that Something Bad was going to happen. It’s very hard to keep secrets with that many 18- to 23-year-olds crammed together that tightly.

}:-)4


4,535 posted on 04/17/2007 6:57:51 AM PDT by Moose4 (Today, we are all Hokies.)
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To: mware

Hello, m.

He was a Romanian Holacaust survivor, an American Citizen who had immigrated here from Israel.

Bennett put the pieces of the story together this am.

Surely, God is comforting his family as we speak.


4,536 posted on 04/17/2007 6:58:32 AM PDT by HonestConservative (Imus called the wrong folks Ho's.)
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To: johniegrad

True, someone will try to sue, but I can’t figure out on what grounds if he followed the mandated procedures to the letter.


4,537 posted on 04/17/2007 6:58:48 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: DCBryan1
understand your reluctance and accept and respect your feelings, but emotion aside, there are RAs, Grad students, non-traditional older students like me, etc, that are very responsible, law abiding citizens. If I saw you getting attacked or raped (yes, males get raped too), I would come to your defense if I were not legally disarmed.

You make a great point. I think back to when I was in college and the me of today would not issue a firearm to the Freshman or Sophmore Dan...but by the time I was a Junior I was a different man. Not every kid on campus would be carrying...but having those that care enough to get regisitered and get a permit and bother to carry would probably be a great asset in a situation like we had yesterday.

4,538 posted on 04/17/2007 6:59:03 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: publana

Roger Ailes loves him.


4,539 posted on 04/17/2007 6:59:31 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: jdm

Oh, aren’t you just so in-the-know! You must have BEEN THERE!


4,540 posted on 04/17/2007 6:59:44 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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