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To: Mia T

If you know that some social and libertarian conservatives won’t vote for him (because they’ve repeatedly told you so), and you acknowledge that Rudy can’t win without these votes, then you’re admitting that Rudy is unelectable. If you vote for him in the primaries despite the previous facts, then it’s your vote that will give the donks the presidency.


109 posted on 04/16/2007 3:04:13 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery

Just so. I was willing to suspend judgment on Rudy, but his recent series of remarks have virtually ruled out any possibility that he will change his position on these fundamental issues. And his position for many years was that of an extreme abortionist. So extreme that he would not even agree with the very mild pledge offered to him by the NY State Conservative Party for an endorsement in his senate race against hillary. All they asked was that he refrain from saying that he favored partial birth abortion during the campaign. And he refused to do even that.

Even if I were willing to vote for him, which at this point I am not, I am confident that tens of millions of religious voters will not pull the lever for him if he is on the ballot in November.

Not unless he changes, which he has now virtually ruled out. He could have repudiated his earlier positions before these latest remarks, but I don’t see how he possibly can now.


111 posted on 04/16/2007 3:59:24 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ellery

I know nothing of the kind. Rudy has sufficient support from both groups.

And his crossover appeal will more than compensate for those on the Right who will reject Rudy and instead place their de facto vote for hillary clinton.

After Bush, this country will NEVER go for a right-wing ideologue. I do concede, however, that Thompson does not come across as a right-wing ideologue.

But Thompson seems moderate because, at his core, he is moderate. After all, he learned at the knee of Howard Baker. (Perhaps this explains his easy disregard for the First Amendment.)


112 posted on 04/16/2007 4:08:48 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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