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KGB ghost stirs JFK mystery
Sunday Times ^ | April 16, 2007 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 04/15/2007 1:23:15 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

A GHOST from the cold war has returned to haunt the CIA. A book to be published this month by a veteran American spy is raising startling new questions about Yuri Nosenko, the Russian defector who played a key part in the inquiry into the assassination of President John F Kennedy.

Conspiracy theorists have long been obsessed with Nosenko’s supposed role as the KGB officer who handled the Moscow file of Lee Harvey Oswald, JFK’s assassin, who had lived for three years in the Soviet Union.

After Nosenko’s defection in 1964 — a few months after Kennedy was shot in Dallas — he assured the CIA that the KGB had never tried to recruit Oswald, who was regarded as “too unstable” to be of use.

It was a crucial moment in the cold war, an apparent intelligence breakthrough that may have prevented a nuclear conflict had America concluded that Moscow was behind the assassination. But what if Nosenko was a fraud?

That tantalising possibility is examined in Spy Wars: Moles, Mysteries, and Deadly Games, by Tennent H Bagley, the former CIA case officer who was initially in charge of Nosenko’s defection.

James Angleton, chief of the CIA’s counter-intelligence unit, went to his grave in 1987 suspecting that Nosenko was a double agent whose main task was to distract the agency from a KGB mole. “The book goes a long way toward rehabilitating [the idea] that Angleton was right in calling him a KGB plant,” said Ron Rosenbaum, a New York journalist who spoke to Bagley earlier this year.

Bagley, who now lives in Brussels, argues that the KGB’s aim was to steer the CIA away from realising that the Russians had recruited an American agent in Moscow in 1949 and perhaps two others later. The book raises the possibility that a KGB mole may have worked at the CIA during the cold war.

Nosenko is believed to be now living under an assumed name somewhere in America. He never gave evidence to the Warren Commission investigating the JFK assassination, but largely as a result of his assurances Washington never took seriously the idea that the KGB plotted to murder Kennedy.

If Nosenko was never who he claimed to be, it is not only Angleton’s reputation that may have to be revised. Bagley’s book seems certain to inflame America’s most formidable group of conspiracy theorists: those who are convinced that Oswald did not act alone.


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To: stinkerpot65

Looks like FR has it’s share of nutcases. DU doesn’t have a monopoly.


21 posted on 04/15/2007 2:08:13 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Condor 63

Yes. It’s a great book that has been boycotted by our media.

I no longer trust ANYTHING I read in newspapers or see on the ‘News’. The media has been covering up the murder of Kennedy for over forty years.

Even Dan Rather has been quoted, since his ‘retirement’ “we really blew it on the Kennedy assassination”.


22 posted on 04/15/2007 2:10:11 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Capt. Tom
If Oswald acted alone he would he would not have been killed.

Two people can keep a secret.....if one of them is dead!

23 posted on 04/15/2007 2:11:27 PM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: Shooter 2.5

And the guy had been through Marine basic training. The Marines train people to be competent riflemen. Period. And Oswald was no exception.

The conspiracy folks need to read this:

SEEING THE UNSEEN, Part 2
http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/000140.html


24 posted on 04/15/2007 2:12:01 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: x

This ‘report’ by Mrs. Lincoln has been widely disseminated on the internet but you won’t find it in the liberal media, ever.

I believe it. In addition, in recent years, Kenny O’Donnel, and Dave Powers, both in the motorcade that day both told Tip O’Neil that two shots were fired from the front, behind the fence on the ‘hill’.

Don’t look for CBS to cover this anytime soon.

JFK was killed so another element in the Democrat Party, with Southern, big business ties could come to power.


25 posted on 04/15/2007 2:13:20 PM PDT by kjo
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To: outofstyle

With all due respect you are wrong. It would not require a massive conspiracy, only a very good story that the few conspiraters could tell to others about why the murder needed to be cover up.

And it worked.


26 posted on 04/15/2007 2:14:57 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Shooter 2.5
"I probably can do the same results with a scoped pistol."

You can.

Another factor, not evidenced in photographs, is just how close in everything is in Dealy Plaza. It's not nearly as distant as one expects.

Looking out the same window Oswald did it's very doable, even for a below average shooter.

The rest of it is just, excuse the expression, simple crap. As a for instance read the letters that Estes had his (one images long suffering) attorney write the DoJ. Yet every time the DoJ trudged out to interview him he wouldn't meet with them. Guess his attorney was smarter than Martha Stewarts. Just another loon in a long list of greasy has beens that never were that want to look like they were on the inside of something that never was.

27 posted on 04/15/2007 2:15:57 PM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: stinkerpot65

So JFK was killed by a lone nut, who was killed by a lone nut who was up to his eyeballs in mafia contacts.

Sorry, the original Warren Report lies in shreads.


28 posted on 04/15/2007 2:16:17 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Tailgunner Joe

BTW, now that Pres Ford has passed, wasn’t there some information now ready for public dissemination not previously available on the Warren Commission?


29 posted on 04/15/2007 2:16:59 PM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

GALLUP Polls through the years.

30 posted on 04/15/2007 2:21:21 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Get a bolt action rifle. Become very familiar with it. Take a month or two. Then take it out to a range, and take a friend with stop watch. Try several time to fire aimed shots in the time that Oswald did. I’ll give odds that you will have problems doing so. IMHO

I'm not sure I can agree. As I recall, Oswald qualified "expert" with the M1 Garand while in the USMC. He had marksmanship skills.

I also seem to recall that the British repeatedly showed that the SMLE could fire ten aimed shots faster and more accurately than a semi-automatic.

One second is a very long time when shooting. My CCW instructor kept getting on me about why I was taking so long to fire. I kept smiling at him and saying "Because you gave me so much time". He would line up up at ten paces from the target and tell us we had five seconds to fire five shots. I always placed my fifth well aimed shot within the allotted time but at about 4.75 seconds. He would scowl at me but I would direct his attention to my target versus targets of the other students who fired much faster than I.

Anyway, from personal experience with a bolt action rifle, I believe Oswald could have made the shots he is alleged to have made.

31 posted on 04/15/2007 2:27:06 PM PDT by fso301
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To: kjo

Explain step by step how it was done with matching trajectories and which bullet landed where.

I’ll bet you can’t do it without mouthing the same tired accusations with no proof.

By the way, LBJ was in the motorcade. He didn’t kill JFK.


32 posted on 04/15/2007 2:32:39 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5
You ever read Barr McClellan’s book Blood, Money & Power: How LBJ Killed JFK?

You should get a copy at your library and read it. It is a good book regardless your position.

33 posted on 04/15/2007 2:41:00 PM PDT by Condor 63
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To: Proud_texan
Another factor, not evidenced in photographs, is just how close in everything is in Dealy Plaza. It's not nearly as distant as one expects.

That's the truth. It's really a rather easy shot down from the 6th floor to Elm Street.

34 posted on 04/15/2007 2:42:51 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Condor 63

Good nonfiction books aren’t based on lies.

I’ll bet you think space aliens built the pyramids. Am I right?


35 posted on 04/15/2007 2:46:55 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

BTTT


36 posted on 04/15/2007 2:49:16 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: outofstyle
No doubt. That's why it was a "long shot."

I don't think there was anything "long" to is from the standpoint of a skilled shooter.

37 posted on 04/15/2007 2:50:56 PM PDT by fso301
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To: xJones

Immensely frustrating that all these years later we, the people, do not know who murdered our president.


38 posted on 04/15/2007 2:51:51 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Shooter 2.5
I’ll bet you think space aliens built the pyramids. Am I right?

Look mate, if you can't debate or talk without being rude and disrespectful you aren't worthy my time. Simply put - I appreciate your service and you have my utmost respect yesterday, today and tomorrow. Pity I can't expect the same from you in return. Especially a pity considering I said or did absolutely nothing to deserve such a response. If you can't treat me like a grown man and act like one yourself why should I bother?

End of conversation.

40 posted on 04/15/2007 2:55:46 PM PDT by Condor 63
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