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The article goes on to say that the professor who sponsored the team works in Iran's nuclear industry, and goes on to point out how incredibly strong 60,000 psi really is. Our new Massive Ordinance Penetrator goes 60 meters through 5,000 psi concrete, but only 8 meters through 10,000 psi concrete.

Disturbing stuff.

1 posted on 04/13/2007 10:37:32 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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Is the recipe available?
3 posted on 04/13/2007 10:43:30 AM PDT by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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Superhard, penetrator, bunker-buster?

Doesn’t not compute - error - bad joke overload...


4 posted on 04/13/2007 10:44:41 AM PDT by Sax
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First of all...if anyone moves against Iran it won't be the US or Europe,it will be Israel.My hunch is that Israel doesn't have what it takes to defeat Iran using conventional weapons even if this report is false.

And if this report is true it just gives Israel another reason to attack...and to use her nukes.

5 posted on 04/13/2007 10:44:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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This sounds like a professor at a university that won a contest with his students, it could well be employed in this manner, but it’s a far cry from being a standard material being used for bunker construction by a defense contractor.
BTW-Who does Iran use as a contractor for it’s bunkers or nuclear facilities? I’d bet it’s a Russian or German company.


6 posted on 04/13/2007 10:46:12 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances ? and it advances relentlessly ? freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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Ahmadinejad hits his head against the concrete to test it.


11 posted on 04/13/2007 10:50:12 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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well, thats it, best excuse to nuke there is


12 posted on 04/13/2007 10:50:30 AM PDT by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process)
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I seriously question how easy it is to produce large quantities of a 50,000psi concrete to protect something like an underground nucealr facility.


13 posted on 04/13/2007 10:54:50 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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I call BS. I smell typical oriental hyperbole. Such claims of “Hyper-strong” concrete are a sign of desperation.

The Iranians are not stupid, but their “achievements” in science propagated lately are ridiculous.
Ahmadinejad claimed Iranian scientists can mass-clone sheep and have a cure for AIDS. Not to mention all the faux propaganda about Iranian developed “Super-Secret and Super-Sonic” Doomsday missiles, torpedoes and “flying boats”.


14 posted on 04/13/2007 10:58:14 AM PDT by SolidWood (Islam is an insanity cult that makes everyone act Arab)
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I wish I could make 50,000 psi concrete - steel is normally 30,000 psi.

Of course the trick with concrete is that it’s compressive strength is not the same as it’s strength in tension. Stuff must be quite brittle.


15 posted on 04/13/2007 11:00:07 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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As great as the concrete is in theory, it still has to be properly installed by Iranians.

The same corner cutting Iranians that seem to crash a plane once every week or two from bad maintenance.

I wish them luck.

16 posted on 04/13/2007 11:01:15 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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Can we get some input from any engineers out there? This stuff must have drawbacks or we would be using it ourselves.


22 posted on 04/13/2007 11:11:54 AM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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“Iran makes superhard concrete”

In other news:

“US finalizes work on superhard concrete penetrator”

I get a knife, you get a gun, etc, etc, etc.


23 posted on 04/13/2007 11:13:08 AM PDT by Domicile of Doom (Life is a series of waiting lines)
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Yeah, well we were just testing some super bunker buster, so we’re all back to zero even if this is true.

http://www.ww4report.com/node/3480


25 posted on 04/13/2007 11:14:55 AM PDT by villagerjoel (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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Super hard concrete makes really super hard shrapnel when it encounters a Bunker Buster.
29 posted on 04/13/2007 11:23:42 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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I’ve been running through this scenario in my mind. Instead of B-2 bombers, we airdrop Bechtel technicians along with the 82nd into one of their remote nuke sites, wipe out the Republican security guards above ground with some A-10’s looking for something to plink, while providing air cover with all our assortment of infinitely superior fighters, and then settle in with an infrastructure of PX’s, bowling alleys and dental clinics to handle the medium-term project of blasting the little rats out of their super-duper concrete rathole.

What could they do? Protest that we were squatting in their remote desert? We could just tell’em to evict us whenever they can must muster up a Marshal.


33 posted on 04/13/2007 11:28:03 AM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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We heard the same thing about Saddam’s bunkers. They said that they could withstand a direct nuclear attack. The engineers just welded the doors shut and dynamited the air vents.
34 posted on 04/13/2007 11:29:08 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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Come on folks, no need to get your panties in a wad.

Compressive strength tests are conducted with a static fixture and usually a hydraulic setup to generate steadily increasing forces while measuring displacement.

Tensile testing is conducted by pulling samples apart. Flexural strength evaluates how the stuff bends under lateral load...

This is a far cry from impact testing at Mach speeds. Hard materials are generally very brittle, which means they don’t stand up well to impact. Consider a diamond for example, it’s referenced as extremely hard (w/o going into the numbers), yet you can smash one into smitherings with a hammer.


35 posted on 04/13/2007 11:30:02 AM PDT by just a dude
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I thought a Canuck university holds the record for the strongest concrete mix. I could be wrong however. It was then used in a concrete toboggan competition.


38 posted on 04/13/2007 11:33:10 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Start as far back as you wish to; muslim culture makes outrageous claims routinely.

Remember the "Mother of all Battles?". That is typical bluster and hyperbole.

The strength of the concrete just guarantees a stronger, more permanent tomb. The achiles heels of any facility is the access, the entrances. destroy those and everything else is irrelevant.

If the facility itself can't be penetrated by large bombs, the interface with the original terrain is not. Ever try to open a door with 100 tons of dirt stacked up against it?

There is no protection that the mind of sandmaggots can devise that the minds of normal free people can't circumvent.

47 posted on 04/13/2007 12:11:26 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com and after their entrance/exit & air shafts are collapsed it can be their tomb tooo...
52 posted on 04/13/2007 12:22:37 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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