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Iran makes superhard concrete -- already in use in bunkers?
The Danger Room | 04/13/2007 | David Hambling

Posted on 04/13/2007 10:37:30 AM PDT by OldGuard1

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To: wideminded

According to the CIA and FoxNews, they have ONE gas refinery.

LLS


21 posted on 04/13/2007 11:11:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: OldGuard1

Can we get some input from any engineers out there? This stuff must have drawbacks or we would be using it ourselves.


22 posted on 04/13/2007 11:11:54 AM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: OldGuard1

“Iran makes superhard concrete”

In other news:

“US finalizes work on superhard concrete penetrator”

I get a knife, you get a gun, etc, etc, etc.


23 posted on 04/13/2007 11:13:08 AM PDT by Domicile of Doom (Life is a series of waiting lines)
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To: OldGuard1

Yeah, well we were just testing some super bunker buster, so we’re all back to zero even if this is true.

http://www.ww4report.com/node/3480


25 posted on 04/13/2007 11:14:55 AM PDT by villagerjoel (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
ONE gas refinery.

Alright. It's one Gasoline refinery. They have many refineries, but all but one are only for crude products.

26 posted on 04/13/2007 11:19:00 AM PDT by SolidWood (Islam is an insanity cult that makes everyone act Arab)
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To: SolidWood
My first thought too.

IMO - desperate propaganda.

27 posted on 04/13/2007 11:20:57 AM PDT by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: villagerjoel

Interesting article, but how can a 30,000 lb bomb only have 5,300 pounds of explosives?


28 posted on 04/13/2007 11:23:10 AM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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To: OldGuard1
Super hard concrete makes really super hard shrapnel when it encounters a Bunker Buster.
29 posted on 04/13/2007 11:23:42 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: wideminded

” they do have their own refineries”

That will change 5 minutes into the war.


30 posted on 04/13/2007 11:24:08 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid. It's also WWIV.)
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To: Sax

Super hard concrete is between the ears of President Nutjob of Iran.


31 posted on 04/13/2007 11:26:47 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Pub Linkser--80

The largest share of the weight is hardened steel (and concrete?) in the bombs nose.


32 posted on 04/13/2007 11:27:41 AM PDT by SolidWood (Islam is an insanity cult that makes everyone act Arab)
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To: OldGuard1

I’ve been running through this scenario in my mind. Instead of B-2 bombers, we airdrop Bechtel technicians along with the 82nd into one of their remote nuke sites, wipe out the Republican security guards above ground with some A-10’s looking for something to plink, while providing air cover with all our assortment of infinitely superior fighters, and then settle in with an infrastructure of PX’s, bowling alleys and dental clinics to handle the medium-term project of blasting the little rats out of their super-duper concrete rathole.

What could they do? Protest that we were squatting in their remote desert? We could just tell’em to evict us whenever they can must muster up a Marshal.


33 posted on 04/13/2007 11:28:03 AM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: OldGuard1
We heard the same thing about Saddam’s bunkers. They said that they could withstand a direct nuclear attack. The engineers just welded the doors shut and dynamited the air vents.
34 posted on 04/13/2007 11:29:08 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: OldGuard1

Come on folks, no need to get your panties in a wad.

Compressive strength tests are conducted with a static fixture and usually a hydraulic setup to generate steadily increasing forces while measuring displacement.

Tensile testing is conducted by pulling samples apart. Flexural strength evaluates how the stuff bends under lateral load...

This is a far cry from impact testing at Mach speeds. Hard materials are generally very brittle, which means they don’t stand up well to impact. Consider a diamond for example, it’s referenced as extremely hard (w/o going into the numbers), yet you can smash one into smitherings with a hammer.


35 posted on 04/13/2007 11:30:02 AM PDT by just a dude
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To: Lucius Vorenus

“If it’s true.

Remember, this is a nation so filled with dimwits that it can’t even refine its own petroleum into gasoline.”

You can no longer discount the Supreme Ayotollah and Almanaijeed as ‘dimwits’. Reminds me of Hitler, evil genius who will self-explode himself and millions if not billions of others as they blow up. I suppose Kim Jong-ill is also a dimwit right? Our overconfidence is why the West and Israel have started to put ourselves in a box of either all out attack on these nations leading to a world war or doing nothing but waiting for nuclear attack delivered via terrorist proxy. Perhaps you should read the Art of War or Assymetrical Warfare and see what playbook our enemies are following and we are ignoring.


36 posted on 04/13/2007 11:32:12 AM PDT by quant5
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To: kots

See, you and I think alike on this.

Every time there is discussion about penetration depth everyone assumes you only get one shot to fully penetrate down to the creamy filling.

No. These weapons are so accurate you lob 3 or 4 of them on top of the same coordinates.

As far as the hard concrete...Creating a small amount of something in a lab environment is a long way from using it for large scale construction.


37 posted on 04/13/2007 11:32:53 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: OldGuard1

I thought a Canuck university holds the record for the strongest concrete mix. I could be wrong however. It was then used in a concrete toboggan competition.


38 posted on 04/13/2007 11:33:10 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: guitfiddlist
wipe out the Republican security guards

Unless you are planning to attack the White House, Republican Lawmakers or Saddam Hussein via a time-travel it should be "Revolutionary Guards". The "Republican" Guards were Saddam's "eltite".

39 posted on 04/13/2007 11:34:38 AM PDT by SolidWood (Islam is an insanity cult that makes everyone act Arab)
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To: LibLieSlayer; Lucius Vorenus
According to the CIA and FoxNews, they have ONE gas refinery.

From a DOE website:

"According to Oil and Gas Journal, Iran has a combined capacity of 1.64 million bbl/d. Major refineries include: Abadan (400,000-bbl/d capacity); Isfahan (265,000 bbl/d); Bandar Abbas (232,000 bbl/d); Tehran (225,000 bbl/d); Arak (150,000 bbl/d); and Tabriz (112,000 bbl/d)." - link

40 posted on 04/13/2007 11:37:36 AM PDT by wideminded
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