April 12, 1861 The War Between The States Begins!

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[stand watie]

fyi, N-S is "The DAMNyankee Minister of PROPAGANDA".

he denies the WELL documented FACTS of what GARBAGE that some of the DYs were.(you might also ask him what he does NOT know about EVERY subject. my guess is that he'll deny that he doesn't know EVERYTHING about everything. at least that's what he told me.)

believe ANYTHING "Mr Minster" says at your peril, as he is filled with deceit.

otoh, he's the only SMART/EDUCATED one of the "DY coven". the rest are just DUMB-bunnies & HATERS.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

btw, have you met "bubba, the TROLL"

he also is at least HALF-educated. otoh, he is a TROLL, so his words are worth ZILCH.

when (IF) you've been around for a while, you'll learn who/what the "major players" are.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

fyi, before midnight, i'll go lay flowers at the shrine.

STONEWALL's death was the "blow that killed dixie's chance" for FREEDOM.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

shall i leave flowers at the shrine for you,tonight, as well???

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[Non-Sequitur]

STONEWALL's death was the "blow that killed dixie's chance" for FREEDOM.

Nah, firing on Sumter was the "blow that killed dixie's chance" for winning their REBELLION.

Jackson's death hurt, but the rebellion didn't revolve around him. Jackson live or Jackson dead the Union would have continued to wipe the floor with the rebel army in the west, Grant would still have come east, Atlanta still falls, Sherman still marches, and in the end the rebels still lose.

[stand watie]

i'm IMPRESSED. at least, UNLIKE the other members of "the DAMNyankee coven", you KNEW what day it is.(the remainder of "the coven" have NO IDEA what you're talking about. they're just PITIFULLY dumb.)

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[stand watie]

thank you for your opinion, "Mr Minister".

you said that like a good little DAMNyankee.

free dixie,sw

[Non-Sequitur]

i'm IMPRESSED. at least, UNLIKE the other members of "the DAMNyankee coven", you KNEW what day it is.(the remainder of "the coven" have NO IDEA what you're talking about. they're just PITIFULLY dumb.)

Oh most do. I'm mildly amazed as so few of you Rebs do. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to work on the toast I'm going to give tonight in honor of the 18th North Carolina.

[stand watie]

peasant revolts (and that is what the TBTS was, from the southern standpoint) have LITTLE chance of success anyway, but take away one of the FEW "trained/talented professionals" and it is COSTLY, if not FATAL to winning.

dixie had FEW leaders, and perhaps nobody else but REL,who had Stonewall's ability & success leading/motivating troops.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

actually, most of "your side" have little or NO knowledge. what they have to excess is:

1.arrogance,

2.ignorance,

3. hatefulness,

4.sanctimoniousness,

5. SELF-righteousness &

6. MEAN-spirited PREJUDICE.

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[x]

President Ronald W. Reagan stated that CSA President Jefferson Davis was a "hero" to him.

So Roger Wilkins says at every possible opportunity.

I haven't been able to find any reliable independent confirmation that Reagan actually said it.

I did find out that Davis, like Lincoln, was active in Reagan's native north central Illinois during the Black Hawk War, and a "Jefferson Davis" character appears in The Santa Fe Trail along with Reagan and Errol Flynn. Nancy's maiden name was Davis as well.

There are different versions, too. Wilkins has Reagan making the quote at a large rally at Stone Mountain, "where the Ku Klux Klan used to burn its crosses," while others who cite the supposed quote have Reagan making the comment "before a crowd" in Atlanta.

I'm not saying that Reagan definitely didn't say that Jefferson Davis was one of his heroes. But it's strange that only a few people have the memory, and that the sources aren't the most reliable. They tend to be blog and e-mail idiots who pass on whatever comes across their screens.

For me, for now, it looks more like an urban myth, than a fact. But if Reagan did say it it's still not clear what he may have meant. "A hero of mine" or "a hero for me" isn't necessarily a hero for the whole country. Even Benedict Arnold's leg is an acknowledged American hero with its own monument.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

I did find out that Davis, like Lincoln, was active in Reagan's native north central Illinois during the Black Hawk War, and a "Jefferson Davis" character appears in The Santa Fe Trail along with Reagan and Errol Flynn. Nancy's maiden name was Davis as well.

And Davis' Postmaster General was named Reagan. COINCIDENCE?

[Non-Sequitur]

And Davis' Postmaster General was named Reagan. COINCIDENCE?

Ummm....yes.

[theanonymouslurker]

That’s too funny.

[Badeye]

“We’ve had Ed from time to time over the years. I wish I could put a spigot in the guys head so I could tap into all his knowledge without having to listen to him speak. His knowledge of the time is almost unparalleled. But his delivery is agonizing.”

(chuckle) he is a character, no denying it.

Wish I could have met Shelby Foote. I began rereading ‘Stars in their courses’ last night.

[Lee'sGhost]

Sorry I did get to this earlier. Thanks for the thought, though.

[stand watie]

"i haven't been able to find-----" ====> in order to find anything, "x", you have to WANT to find it.

in my experience, NO arrogant/prejudiced BIGOT wants to find (and thus cannot find) ANYTHING that makes their PREJUDICES/arrogance/ignorance of facts/hatefulness look like the DISHONESTY & WILLFUL IGNORANCE of contrary facts & their UNthinking PREJUDICE, that ordinary people know it to be.

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[stand watie]

fyi, i remembered you (with some flowers for the General), about 1030PM, at the shrine.

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[DanielLongo]

"I can think of no greater calamity to befall this people than the dissolution of the Union and I will sacrifice everything, save honor, for its preservation"-General Robert E. Lee (quoted as near as I can remember it)

One of the more significant turns in Western history, beyond it being a "modern" war, was that fighting for and with honor was replaced in the starkest of ways with fighting to kill. The gentility of former wars was forcefully replaced with "total war". It was no longer about dying for your country, but was instead (in the words of George S. Patton) about,"making the other miserable ba***rd die for his." The First Families, though bravely and gallantly fighting, were worn down by an indomitable machine called the common man. On both sides the prime lesson was learned, that every free man is a king and fights with a king's heart.

[smug]

Bad, so bad. Witty, but bad.