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To: dmw
Sniff, sniff—smell that? It’s the smell of fear that’s coming from the Rudyite camp. It’s a sweet smelling aroma that keeps me coming back, day after day, hour after hour. Sniff, sniff...aaaahhhh....such a sweet smelling aroma!

What's that sound I hear? It's the sound of wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from the '100% no-compromise our-way-or-the-highway we'll sit home and let a democrat win in order to teach america a lesson' crowd as you realize that without some form of compromise and moderation, you'll continue to be irrelevent...

Sad reality must suck.

156 posted on 04/12/2007 12:56:41 PM PDT by GenuineChocolateFace
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To: GenuineChocolateFace

There’s a difference between compromising some things and completely throwing things out.

Rudy’s positions are anathema to most conservative positions. Reagan’s line doesn’t apply here: Rudy is not our 80% ally.

Here, the opposite is true. “My 80% enemy is not my 20% ally.”


158 posted on 04/12/2007 1:03:44 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: GenuineChocolateFace
What's that sound I hear? It's the sound of wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from the '100% no-compromise our-way-or-the-highway

Except that most of the folks you are attempting to paint as such would strongly support a Fred Thompson candidacy, who is not 100 percent conservative but is on the whole a conservative candidate, unlike Rudy.

Which makes your 100 percenter line of attack completely bogus. Conservatives will move towards the center if needed. They won't move left of center. Rudy is extremely left of center on key issues such as abortion (100 percent NARAL rating) and gun control (addressed Brady Center rallies and called for federal gun control laws).

If you are so serious about the GOP winning, quit pushing a guy who will rift the party.

159 posted on 04/12/2007 1:03:45 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: GenuineChocolateFace
GenuineChocolateFace (my wife would have wanted that screenname...),

I hear the lamentations expressed against the hands-sitting conservatives of last year and can't shake the realization that the wrong lesson has been learned. The party shouldn't be saying that conservative were wrong to not vote last election (by the way, yes, I voted), they should realize how badly they've gone adrift to lose the conservative vote.

Going further leftward with Rudy isn't the solution the problem when viewed from this perspective. No matter who you are (Hillary included), you still have to give people a reason to vote for you. The GOP has failed at governnance according to the reasons they were given the reins and the voters have had a negative reaction. Rather than chastising the voters, why don't we learn from this mistake and show some leadership? Their solution so far is to put out a milquetoast, mushy-middle candidate to try to capture the moderates. News flash for the powers-that-be: The Dem faithful will still vote for the candidate with the (D) and the conservatives will be further disenfranchised. Seems like a recipe for electoral disaster to me...

/ my two cents.

160 posted on 04/12/2007 1:05:51 PM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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To: GenuineChocolateFace
“Sad reality must suck.”

Nah, sad reality is when another NW liberal comes on FR and tries to tell 90% of us conservatives here that we need to accept a liberal candidate. What’s the matter, did it get too boring over there at DU for you? People who promote liberalism in any form here on this forum can expect to be challenged and challenged fiercely. It isn’t conservatives who need to be put on the defensive here—it’s the liberals who promote liberalism.

"...100% no-compromise our-way-or-the-highway we'll sit home and let a democrat win in order to teach america a lesson' crowd as you realize that without some form of compromise and moderation, you'll continue to be irrelevent..."

You are right, no compromise--to the left that is. Moderation? Not interested. Irrelevant you say...time will tell.

I noticed in another post of yours that you don’t claim to be a Rudy supporter. Do you think you’ve got some kind of a calling to come here and defend the Rudybots? I guess someone had to go and recruit you to help protect these poor liberals who are getting their little *feelings* hurt here. How sweet of you to come and help these poor babies.

BTW, if you haven’t already, I suggest you go to the FR home page and read the FR mission. This is a very conservative forum, and as Jim Robinson has recently said, it will most likely become more conservative in the days ahead. Not gonna be too comfy for liberals...or for those who try to protect them.

And, by the way, welcome to FR.

164 posted on 04/12/2007 1:50:51 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives do NOT vote for liberals.)
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