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To: MACVSOG68
The courts are not infallible. In the past, the USSC has found the income tax unconstitutional because it is not apportioned. A great deal of corruption has been invested in the establishement of this unapportioned tax. The courts have been corrupted no less than Congress. We are at the point now that though it is wrong, we do it their way---sort of like if the mafia wants a cut of your profits you give it to them or they'll hurt you. You can complain, you can object, but you pay to keep your knees from being broken. When the government itself is doing mafia like stuff it gets difficult because there is no higher power to save us other than ourselves and getting back to the declaration of independence if you know what I mean.

The progressively graduated individual income tax is Communist. It is one of the planks in the Communist Manifesto. We in this country are being told that Communist objectives is Capitalist, and vice versa. That is why the people accept the communist government schools systems, and income tax, they think it is capitalist. If they understood it is communist, things might be different.

However, I always tell people, before you worry about the IRS and the income tax, you are missing something vastly more important and that is the currency. I have told the fair tax people (who tell me to shut up) that before we have a fair tax, we must have a fair currency, as per Art. 1, Sec. 10, Clause 1, US Constitution. Money must be gold and silver coin and gold and silver coin must be money, exclusive of any other forms. Absolutely money cannot be monetized debt. There can be self liquidating bills of exchange, promissory notes, debt instruments traded, sure there can be debt, a modern economy needs debt to function, but the debt must ultimately terminate in precious metal coins. Currently, all money ultimately terminates in a debt contract somewhere.

Establish a FairCurrency which would be synonymous with the gold and silver coin of the Constituiton, then a FairTax which would be synonymous with being apportioned among the states and in accordance with the constitution. Abolish the income tax and the IRS as they are communist. Let reasonable and stable import duties and tarriffs pay the expenses of the federal government. This nation would be a happier place.

14 posted on 04/12/2007 8:12:05 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: Jason_b
In the past, the USSC has found the income tax unconstitutional because it is not apportioned.

The 16th took care of that.

The courts have been corrupted no less than Congress. We are at the point now that though it is wrong, we do it their way---sort of like if the mafia wants a cut of your profits you give it to them or they'll hurt you.

So the tax courts, district courts, appeals courts and the USSC are all corrupted to continue the income tax?

The progressively graduated individual income tax is Communist. It is one of the planks in the Communist Manifesto. We in this country are being told that Communist objectives is Capitalist, and vice versa.

No, most of us can distinguish between a communist economy and a capitalist one. And the income tax, no matter what one may think of it, is not a major indicator.

Abolish the income tax and the IRS as they are communist. Let reasonable and stable import duties and tarriffs pay the expenses of the federal government. This nation would be a happier place.

I do hope you don't spend a lot of emotional capital on this concept. Unlike the fair tax folks I'm not going to engage in a debate on this issue, as it is simply frivolous daydreaming.

24 posted on 04/12/2007 8:27:45 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Jason_b
Money must be gold and silver coin and gold and silver coin must be money, exclusive of any other forms.

There isn't enough gold to back our money supply. Do you favor massive deflation? Is deflation a good thing?

Currently, all money ultimately terminates in a debt contract somewhere.

Wow, a debt contract! Sounds scary. So now you'll tell me that the FR notes in my wallet are debt. Do I owe interest to someone on these notes, or does someone owe me?

60 posted on 04/12/2007 9:50:28 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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