The Real Surge Story

The Washington Post ^ | 12APR2007 | Joe Biden

[joseph20]

The Real Surge Story

By Joe Biden
Thursday, April 12, 2007; Page A27

If the president's plan won't work, what will? History suggests only four other ways to keep together a country riven by sectarian strife:

We allow or help one side to win, which would require years of horrific bloodletting.

We perpetuate the occupation, which is impossible politically and practically.

We promote the return of a dictator, who is not on the horizon but whose emergence would be the cruelest of ironies.

Or we help Iraq make the transition to a decentralized, federal system, as called for in its constitution, where each major group has local control over the fabric of its daily life, including security, education, religion and marriage.

[joseph20]

The first thing that obtrusively stands out with this article is Joe Biden's inability to put together a grammatically correct sentence. The awkward sentence fragments, improperly placed commas, and run-ons make for a good match to the idiocy behind the actual ideas that his words represent.

His ultimate conclusion is that the President's current strategy will fail because it is "impossible politically and practically". Well, has it occurred to the Senator that the only reason the current strategy might be impossible is that politicians like himself are making it so? Who is responsible for making success in Iraq "politically impossible"? Joe Biden is 1 Senator out of 100 and he needs to take a good hard cold sober look in the mirror.

[gr8eman]

Maybe the image he will see in the mirror will be Neil Kinnock.

[happyathome]

“...Joe Biden’s inability to put together a grammatically correct sentence.”

You’re assuming he wrote it. Sounds a little like Neil Kinnock to me.

[Little Ray]

We should have gone for “We allow or help one side to win...” right from the start. It would not have been our blood flowing. As it is, we’ve spent a lot of lot blood and treasure for folks who largely don’t appreciate it or who are actively our enemies. Being “nice” to enemy populations is not just wasteful, its dangerous.

[stylin19a]

We promote the return of a dictator, who is not on the horizon but whose emergence would be the cruelest of ironies

This is almost where it has to go. Whoever can unite the Iraq military has a leg up. I'm guessing Al-Sadr.

[drzz]

Joe Biden should be hanged for treason.

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU ARE FIGHTING IN IRAQ ?

The answer :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-w116jnL7Y

[expatpat]

Which side are you suggesting we should we have chosen? The al-Sadr killers or the Sunni killers?

[LZ_Bayonet]

"But there is no trust within the government, no trust of the government by the people it purports to serve and no capacity on the part of the government to deliver security or services.

Does he mean Iraq or the U.S.? Think I'm just throwing out a remark?...read my Tag Line.

[Little Ray]

Hard to say, but the Sunnis supported Saddam, caused most of the trouble, and since Al Qaeda is mostly Sunni, I’d probably go with letting the Kurds and Shia exterminate the Sunni.
Then they’d probably then fall in with Iran, but that’s an issue for another day.
Of course, then Saudis (Sunnis) would be PO’d, complicating things - another issue for another day - like reminding them that we haven’t forgotten that 15 of the 19, most of Al Qaeda’s money, etc., were from Saudis.

[dangus]

Actually, isn’t Joe Biden’s “plan” what Bush has been working for all along, encumbered primarily by the MSM and Democrat’s active aid and abetting of terrorists?

[ClaireSolt]

There is no way the Iraqis would let Joe Biden tell them what do do, at this point. They have a constitution, numnuts.

[dangus]

Numnuts? O, that’s classy. Take your gutter language out of here.

As for the substance of what you said, I have no idea what you are talking about. Biden’s CLAIM (and my slam on MSM and the Democrats should make it obvious I ain’t buying his claim) is that he wants to just help Iraq towards a federal system of self-determination, as provided for in their Constitution.

My point is that after years of assaulting the Republican Party, Biden is essentially presenting as his boldly different plan the exact same thing he has been attacking.

[dangus]

I think I misinterpreted your post, which was addressed to Biden, and not, as I thought, me.

[joseph20]

While painting oil and canvas on my ranch I reflect back to reality, wondering to myself about the stupidity of political and practical impossibilities...