[Bob J]

And many of the rights contained in the Constitution, particularly the Bill of Rights, were based on principles stated in the DOI, in particular that every person has the right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”. If you’re arguing that the founding fathers did not have the concept of rights that are God given as opposed to rights that are man given when drawing it up, you’re not only hopeless but an idiot.

I made the point earlier that there are “human” rights and there are “citizen” rights. And yes, anyone showing up on our shores has these certain “human” rights, that’s why we keep terrorists in Gitmo and why the Coast Guard tries to intercept Cubans before they get to this shore and declare their “rights”.

[Sam Hill]

“And yes, anyone showing up on our shores has these certain “human” rights, that’s why we keep terrorists in Gitmo and why the Coast Guard tries to intercept Cubans before they get to this shore and declare their “rights”.”

You know as much about our history as the Constitution.

The German saboteurs who FDR tried via military tribunals (ala Gitmo) showed up on our shores.