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Unsettling History of That Joyous ‘Hallelujah’ (NYT vomit alert)
New York Times ^ | 4/8/07 | Michael Marissen

Posted on 04/08/2007 11:08:14 AM PDT by lqclamar

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There are few things more contemptable in this world that a left wing music snob. The purpose of this hit piece on Handel is nothing more than an attempt to secularize his work - to make the Messiah an icon of music alone, stripped of its religious meaning and purpose. This sleazeball's object is to make that religious meaning a contemptable relic of the past, and his article jumps through every hoop imaginable to achieve it. Of course, there is more conjecture and spin to his interpretation than actual history. The Hallelujah Chorus says absolutely nothing about the Roman destruction of the Jewish temple, but rather is a reference to the resurrection of Christ based on a verse in Revelations. But just enough information exists out there for this sleazeball to spin it into something plausible sounding.

In reality, all he's doing is attempting to lay a secular leftist claim to a distinctly non-secular musical work, thus permitting it to be "enjoyed" by secular liberals who claim to hold the only true key to "understanding" it. In reality these liberal music snob types seldom if ever truly "understand" classical music. They know nothing of the symphonic form, the tonal mechanics of the concerto, or the intense mathematical complexity of instrumental coordination. As a result they are the very same types of people who draw the highmarks of western music into a culturally relative equivalency with everything from jihadi incantations to hip hop to postmodern discordance to barbarian fertility rituals from the darkest corners of the third world. It's all an artsy-fartsy "high culture" thing to them where music is appreciated not for its genius but because it sounds either "sophisticated" or "exotic" to its musically untrained yet multicultrually obsessed listener.

1 posted on 04/08/2007 11:08:16 AM PDT by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar

Leave it to the NYT to print trash on Easter.


2 posted on 04/08/2007 11:13:28 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Leave it to the NYT to print trash on Easter.

Indeed, but then again is it any different from what they print on any other given day of the year?

3 posted on 04/08/2007 11:14:37 AM PDT by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: lqclamar

Michael Marissen
Daniel Underhill Professor of Music History
Department of Music and Dance
Swarthmore College
Swarthmore, PA 19081-1397, USA

my office phone: 610-328-8237
department fax: 610-328-8551

michael_marissen@swarthmore.edu


4 posted on 04/08/2007 11:18:45 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: lqclamar
Sounds like The Old Grey Lady Hag's new motto is:

"All The News Sh*t That's Unfit to Print."

5 posted on 04/08/2007 11:20:15 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate for VA in '08 * Thompson/Hunter in '08)
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To: jimbo123

That explains a lot. His CV is a list of articles that seem to revolve around the thesis of finding “hidden” anti-semitism in everything written by Handel, Bach, or practically any other composer who wrote Christian music.


6 posted on 04/08/2007 11:27:30 AM PDT by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: jimbo123
Here's a photo of the limp-wrist who wrote this article. He makes Noel Coward look resolute by comparison.
7 posted on 04/08/2007 11:32:31 AM PDT by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: jimbo123
Here's a photo of the limp-wrist who wrote this article. He makes Noel Coward look resolute by comparison.


8 posted on 04/08/2007 11:32:44 AM PDT by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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The dangerous thing about revisionist religious history is that it is designed for the increasing number of those who believe in nothing... They’ll fall for anything.


9 posted on 04/08/2007 11:32:58 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: jimbo123

Hogwash.

“Handel and his contemporaries did have a high opinion of the characters populating the Hebrew Bible, not as “Jews” but as proto-Christian believers in God’s expected Messiah, Jesus.”

I might call to the writer’s attention that England was one of the nations to offer sanctuary to Jews when they were expelled from Vienna and other Austrian lands by Maria Theresa; that the King himself protested the expulsions; that Jews enjoyed full legal rights (to give testimony in court, to inherit according to law, etc.) long before these rights were acquired on the continent; etc.

“Kidder’s work reads like a blueprint for “Messiah.”

LOL! So does the NT, or any Christian course in bible study. Same verses used, same comparisons made between the two ‘twin’ testaments (old and new). Accept it or not, as you like; but it didn’t begin with Kidder.

“In Jennens and Handel’s time, Christians were all but unanimous in believing that the violence depicted in Psalm 2:9 represented the prophesying type for a later event: the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple, the fulfilling antitype.”

See above. Find me a commentary which says this. The plain reading of the Psalm is that the ‘nations’ are the gentile nations of the world; as verse 2.10 goes on to say, “Therefore, you kings, be wise; be warned, you rulers of the earth.” —hardly a reference to the Jews, but rather to the rest of the nations. Again, standard.


10 posted on 04/08/2007 11:39:40 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: lqclamar

I agree with you, but I think the flow of the narrative puts the Hallelujah Chorus as the celebration of the Second Coming, as it follows the evangelists’ age.


11 posted on 04/08/2007 11:46:16 AM PDT by gusopol3
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The allusion is there, and certainly it is part of the Revelations text from which the lines are drawn. The oratorio's theme was to tell the Christmas and Easter stories though. The statement of Hallelujah was to reflect upon Christ as the redeemer of humanity, both in birth and resurrection. This can be seen from the Chorus' role as the conclusion of the second act, which begins with the apostle John's announcement of Christ's birth: "Behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world."

"Hallelujah, for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth" is the fulfillment of that opening line.

12 posted on 04/08/2007 11:54:39 AM PDT by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: Captainpaintball
It didn't used to be a problem because the victor wrote the history and there typically weren't too many dissenters left alive to object.

Perhaps we should return to this model...

13 posted on 04/08/2007 11:56:21 AM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: CondorFlight
See above. Find me a commentary which says this.

Toward the end of his article this bozo presents his "proof" of the antisemitic interpretation by quoting from a sermon about the oratorio given by a preacher several decades AFTER Handel's death. Now there's an authoritative source on what Handel was thinking back in 1742. /sarc

14 posted on 04/08/2007 11:57:08 AM PDT by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: lqclamar

Clarification - that should be John the Baptist’s announcement, quoted by the apostle John


15 posted on 04/08/2007 12:02:54 PM PDT by lqclamar ("That's it, Seth, you can't blame them. It's want of education. That's all it is.")
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To: Always Right

LOL...one can only laugh at the ridiculous attempt this writer makes to discredit Handel’s sublime achievement of marrying Biblical text and music in “Messiah”. The child of God must remind himself that such a person is unable to understand the things of God and needs our prayers.
The Scripture refers to such as being “blind and dead in their sins.” Only the Holy Spirit can enlighten such dark hearts and bring the joy of Easter to those without it.


16 posted on 04/08/2007 12:10:08 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: rabscuttle385

She’s changing her image. Look, now she’s wearing purple

http://www.tvacres.com/horror_witches_seahag.htm


17 posted on 04/08/2007 12:18:12 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: lqclamar
The horrible thing about our culture is that this lunatic interpretation of Handel will become the absolute gospel truth for people on the Christophobic Left. At the moment the Wikipedia entry on the work is rational and nonpolitical, but I guarantee you that it will be "updated" soon to "reflect" the "controversy".

The fact that there is no rational basis for this belief doesn't matter--the lie is easier to understand than the truth.

It's the continuing Saul Alinsky-ization of the culture. Just toss the lie out there and make the truth look stodgy and boring. The culture's fruit-fly attention span is made for the lie, as long as it's catchy.

18 posted on 04/08/2007 12:18:16 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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As a kid in the 1960's, I learned to like classical music from listening to WQXR, the radio station of the New York Times.

But the station changed its format over the decades.

They went from occasionally playing 20th century garbage to almost always playing it.

What surprises me, is that once a year, during the holiday season, they ask their listeners to vote for their favorite works.

Bach, Handel, Beethoven, Mozart and the like make up the vast majority of what their listeners like.

Yet the station persists in playing their nihilistic 20th century garbage almost constantly.

And when they are not playing 20th century garbage, they will dredge up some earlier piece of cacophony or some obscure, trite 19th or 18th cent. version of elevator music and play that.

I conclude that the station is purposely fostering a dislike of "classical music" in young people.

I picture a teenager tuning in to QXR for a moment, hearing the garbage they play, and concluding that is typical of classical music, and so classical music is the worst junk imaginable.

It's like it's a commie plot or something to dumb down each new generation of Americans.

19 posted on 04/08/2007 12:19:43 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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The same is true of WABE (government radio) here in Atlanta. I stopped listening several years ago.
Most of their “music” programming is the crap you indicate they play up there.
The rest of their day is consumed with statist/socialist/leftist bravo sierra TALK.


20 posted on 04/08/2007 12:41:40 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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