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To: Shermy; kevkrom
If the left has really pulled off the greatest conspiracy of all time with complicity from everyone from the overwhelming majority of scientists to the Supreme Court and only the clever coal and oil interests against them - isn’t it only a matter of time until they take over the world and institute an Orwellian global government?

I mean if their organization is that great, haven’t we already lost?

This conspiracy crap is starting to get loonier and loonier and the momentum toward action moves faster and faster.

My advice: stop arguing about the weather and recognize that we need to find logical and market-based mechanisms to release less carbon. All we are talking about is higher efficiency and perhaps slightly more expensive energy. Americans have shrugged off the cost at the pump. Double the price of gas, double efficiency and the only ones who suffer are our friends in Russia, Venezuela, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

34 posted on 04/06/2007 11:58:24 PM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (I don't care what side of the debate you are on: Weather is not Climate)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
We should cut back on the consumption of oil for transportation purposes just based on the National Security implications alone. It needs to be done quickly, but it should not severely impact our economy. Additionally, we should not be forced to accept any half-baked pseudoscience theories developed by a bunch of greedy power control statists or greedy corporate elites. To put it simply, we should not be forced to believe their lies to justify our truths. If you think they will stop at carbon credits, to quote a rock and roll song, ‘you got another thing coming’.
36 posted on 04/07/2007 12:55:37 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

“My advice: stop arguing about the weather and recognize that we need to find logical and market-based mechanisms to release less carbon.”

Your “advice” is exactly in line with the current strategy used by the left: assert that the debate is over and pretend the only thing to do now is to initiate massive industrial setbacks through penalties, fines and taxes.
When the left tells me that the debate over a HYPOTHESIS is “no longer in dispute,” I must conclude their motive is a hidden agenda and their statement a lie.

Whatever they do, the left cannot admit global warming is neither human induced nor catastrophic. The funny thing is that the global warming scam is quickly becoming a massive sinkhole for the left, and by the time this is over they will have incurred massive credibility damage. I wonder which will be more painful—the internal, narcissistic injury from having believed such nonsense or the loss of external gain as carbon credits, research grants and political power go out the window.

In short, I am fascinated by the question of how the left will weasel their way out of this one.


41 posted on 04/07/2007 5:51:13 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (A leftist will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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