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To: sevenbak

(smacks head) You are saying that the verse implies a spirit riding the pine until God calls it into the game. I am saying it implies that God knows what he plans to do before he does it. Either way, there is no explicit mention of a spirit waiting on the Go sign.

If you want Scriptural basis for predestination and foreknowledge, we’ll be here a while because there is lots of it.


373 posted on 04/10/2007 11:27:12 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
No, riding the pine is your view of it, not mine. We are Gods spirits, His children. We were in the presence of God when the world was formed, and the plan of God for us was manifest. There are countless references. Here are jsut a few more.

Job 38:
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for Joy?

Now, where else have we heard about the morning stars and sons of God?

Isaiah 14:12

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Christ Himself calls himself the "Morning Star" (Rev. 12:16)

And from Revelations 12:

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

And this too:

Luke 10:

18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

There are lots of references, I'm happy to go through as many as I know.

385 posted on 04/10/2007 1:48:48 PM PDT by sevenbak
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