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To: LeGrande

>> Then why label the church as a cult? Why bring up the atrocities that some of it’s members committed in the past? Do you honestly believe that Mormons under the direction of the prophet go around killing innocent men, women and children?

No, they don’t go around killing people. My point in bringing up that event was to stress the potential harm that the cult-mind can bring.

LeGrande, please take a minute to read my post #44. That explains in detail why I believe the Mormon church is a cult. After reading that, I would like to hear your opinion. I’m not just simply labeling them a cult. I was a member (in fact still am technically) and I went through the Temple ceremonies, so I know what I am talking about.

Let me phrase it in another way. If the church was not as I described in #44 (i.e. secretive, symbolic penalties of death, not beholden to a Prophet that God speaks through, etc.), then I would not consider them to be a cult.

By the way, your names are not taken off otherwise you would have received documentation stating such. What ramifications could that have for you and your family in the future? Well, if you have children, it could lead to them being led back into the church against your better judgement at some point when they are older. As long as their names are on the “books” then they will likely be contacted by ward members. Right now you may not care, but if a child of yours is influenced to join, you may feel different. Once they join, their view of you can change (because now they view you as a misguided soul). Ramifications, ramifications.

Also, why the heck would you not be ticked off because you asked them to remove your name and they haven’t. Don’t you think that is disrespectful to you? Shouldn’t you be insulted? They should honor your request without equivocation.

>> What are your beliefs? Are you part of an organized religion? Do you think it might have some skeletons in its closet? Do you believe in the same God Abraham worshiped?

I am a Christian; I follow Jesus Christ in the new testament, and I don’t believe there are skeletons in Jesus Christ’s closet. I believe that anyone who accepts Christ as their savior and makes every attempt to live as a Christian is a Christian, as well (from their fruits we shall know them). Officially, my name is on the “books” as a member of the Mormon church. Yes, I believe in the same God Abraham worshiped; a God of Omnipotence, Omniscience, Omnipresence; a God that through his will created everything in the universe.


184 posted on 04/06/2007 9:23:21 AM PDT by jatopilot99 (Mitt Romney is pro-abortion, pro-gay, and pro-euthanasia!)
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To: jatopilot99
No, they don’t go around killing people. My point in bringing up that event was to stress the potential harm that the cult-mind can bring.

So the 'Christians' that persecuted and killed the Mormons in Missouri were they cultists too? Did you know that many of the victims of the Mormon Meadow massacre were the very same persecutors in Missouri?

Let me phrase it in another way. If the church was not as I described in #44 (i.e. secretive, symbolic penalties of death, not beholden to a Prophet that God speaks through, etc.), then I would not consider them to be a cult.

So you consider the Jews, and Catholics cults (substitute Pope for Prophet)? I too was Married in the Temple so I know what I am talking about.

By the way, your names are not taken off otherwise you would have received documentation stating such. What ramifications could that have for you and your family in the future? Well, if you have children, it could lead to them being led back into the church against your better judgement at some point when they are older. As long as their names are on the “books” then they will likely be contacted by ward members. Right now you may not care, but if a child of yours is influenced to join, you may feel different. Once they join, their view of you can change (because now they view you as a misguided soul). Ramifications, ramifications.

What is your problem? If my children or wife decide to rejoin the Mormon church I will support their decision. The values that the Church teaches are good and noble goals. The standards that the Church set are high. I can think of a lot worse things to happen to my kids than becoming good faithful LDS. LOL

Also, why the heck would you not be ticked off because you asked them to remove your name and they haven’t. Don’t you think that is disrespectful to you? Shouldn’t you be insulted? They should honor your request without equivocation.

They did, but I don't expect them to go through all their records and delete any reference to me and my family, what is the point? We leave a trail wherever we go, it is who we are.

I am a Christian; I follow Jesus Christ in the new testament, and I don’t believe there are skeletons in Jesus Christ’s closet. I believe that anyone who accepts Christ as their savior and makes every attempt to live as a Christian is a Christian, as well (from their fruits we shall know them). Officially, my name is on the “books” as a member of the Mormon church. Yes, I believe in the same God Abraham worshiped; a God of Omnipotence, Omniscience, Omnipresence; a God that through his will created everything in the universe.

Would you say that Mormons are Christians? By the same definition that you gave of yourself?

191 posted on 04/06/2007 11:54:54 AM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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