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“We simply will not agree on the matter. It’s time to recognize that. And Mitt Romney is not running for pope so please don’t allow the discussion to turn into something along those lines.

Focus instead on Romney’s secularism and his governing as a civic Christian, a “Christian with a small ‘c’”. “

And you’ve just demonstrated the problem with a Romney presidency. The entire time in office he would have to deny his Mormonism, OR he could slip and become super-mormon (I’ve seen that happen).

In other words, what you are saying is that he would have to bottle up the most important essence of his moral being in order to be viable - for the next ten years. And then you are going to be surprised when the problems happen.

What problems you ask? How about in the middle of a news conference when he is asked about the Book of Mormon’s view that blacks are the children of Caine (now whitewashed but part of the original Book of Mormon). Or asked to discuss Kolob. Or celestial marriage to many women (because spirit beings are 45 to 1 female).

Oh yeah, this is going to get nasty. And you all will have to suck up your Christian faith, or Jewish faith (American Indians are long lost Jews you know) and defend Romney’s beliefs. Or you will force Romney to become a hypocrite.

Sure sounds like a foundation of sand for a presidency.

There is a long history, essentially a uniformity, of small-'c' Christianity by our past presidents. Although it was and still is a Protestant country, it was less than twenty years after its founding that the government hosted a Catholic Mass in the Capitol. (Worship in the Capitol was a weekly event, attended by the president and many in Congress.) America was rabidly Protestant in those days, having narrowly escaped the establishment of state churches (all Protestant denominations except for the Baptists who turned it down and fought the battle to stop the state church movement.)

America is a country of religious tolerance. We do not tolerate violent cults, like Islam, however.

As to your remarks about people bringing up the Book of Mormon, I doubt it would come up any more than questions about the Church of Christ came up with Reagan, or Episcopalean questions with Bush I, Southern Baptist questions with Xlinton, or sinless perfectionism within Methodism with Bush II. Why? Because they didn't run on religious platforms any more than Romney has.

What problems you ask? How about in the middle of a news conference when he is asked about the Book of Mormon’s view that blacks are the children of Caine (now whitewashed but part of the original Book of Mormon). Or asked to discuss Kolob. Or celestial marriage to many women (because spirit beings are 45 to 1 female).

It won't be asked. Not more than once. Any organization would find itself expelled from White House press corps. And they know it full well. I don't think you can cite a single example of Romney being anything except Mormon in private belief and worship. There is no basis for this accusation. And the pattern of his life indicates that his fundamental drives are toward his family and wife, business success and, having succeeded at all those, now political leadership.

Oh yeah, this is going to get nasty.

Only if the moderators allow posts like the ones you placed on this thread. Be warned that I intend to start hitting Abuse on them and I will encourage others to do the same. You're causing harm to our forum.

This is a conservative, constitutional forum. Persons of all religious traditions and races are welcome here, the only litmus is that they are conservative. We have Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Baptists, evangelicals, militant atheists, agnostics... even a few Muslims of the Western-oriented type. All those are fine here but only Mormons are to be singled out? I don't think that is management's intent.

Have you considered the harm you cause to the forum by posting this sort of attack on Mormonism on a political thread, especially during a fundraiser? Why would Mormons want to donate to FR if they see this?

For that matter, look at the voting record of Mormons. They are as solidly Republican a voting bloc as you'll find. Always have been. Is our message to them that they can vote for us but just forget about every sharing leadership, even if they have an extremely capable candidate in their midst? Is it "no Mormons need apply"?

Somehow, I never noticed all the attacks on the dangers posed to the country by the Mormonism of Harry Reid or other Mormons. And they do have about 5% of the elective offices in government, about three times their percentage of the population. So where is the pro-Mormon policies of this group? When was the last time you saw Harry Reid assailed to explain the Book of Mormon to the press, as you imagine Romney would be asked? And why couldn't Romney, if asked, just tell the press that he thinks Harry Reid, being older and more experienced in Mormon theology, should be consulted to speak for Mormon theology?

And you all will have to suck up your Christian faith, or Jewish faith (American Indians are long lost Jews you know) and defend Romney’s beliefs. Or you will force Romney to become a hypocrite.

No, we wouldn't. Why is every other denomination that lays a claim to the spiritual teachings of Jesus Christ, thundering damnation and denouncing the heresies of every other Christian denomination and theological formation, so trustworthy in this regard and immune to the press and only Mormonism is to be accused of bad motives or that the election of a Mormon will become a giant Mormon extravaganza? No, it just doesn't wash.

If you want to debate Mormonism, start some threads in the Backroom. Stop giving our forum a black eye. FR is a home to all conservatives. Not just non-Mormon conservatives.