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To: Vanguard40

Its like when France decided in one day to surrender to the Germans after a month of hard fighting.

Call it crossing the line from ally to merely a neutral.


160 posted on 04/04/2007 2:34:41 PM PDT by Axlrose
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To: Axlrose

Actually the Brits, along with the Aussies and Canadians are our strongest allies along with some newcomers like Poland and Romania.

This incident doesn’t prove anything regarding being and ally. All it proves is that the Labour Party are weak and appeasers. Our Dems (as Carter did) are just as bad and have a worse record.

I’m seriously hoping, for the UK, that they unleash an air attack (along with the US) on the nuke sites now (perfect opening)and crush the Rev.Guards, Al Quds etc of the military. If they don’t it’s just another chapter in the fall of the West.


162 posted on 04/04/2007 2:41:52 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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I’ve just been watching this on the news and it was a complete farce. They had some daft bint and her husband kissing ahmedinnerjackets ass.

When the hostages did their little walk out to meet the president, one of them was talking to an ITV news reporter while the others were talking to the president, and he was grabbed.

These bastard iranians have again tonight put them on tv, focusing again on the women (once again with here head gear on).

He can take his gift and shove it.

Our gift to him will hopefully be a mass bombing campaign.

But FRiends, I feel some of you are being a bit harsh on us Brits, the debate about whether the soldiers should have given themselves up could go on forever, as could the conduct of our government.

I don’t exactly know what the government has done wrong, it hasn’t really given them anything, and it has stuck to its guns with regards our innocence of any wrongdoing.

To start questioning our commitment while our soldiers are fighting and dying alongside our American brothers is simply a disgrace. Britain has been one of only a couple of nations that has stood by you, Tony Blair has sacrificed himself politically for this fight and I have absolutely no doubt that we will support the inevitable decision to attack Iran over it’s nuclear weapons programme.


163 posted on 04/04/2007 2:42:25 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: Axlrose

“Its like when France decided in one day to surrender to the Germans after a month of hard fighting.
Call it crossing the line from ally to merely a neutral.”

An ally?

No. France was not an ally of the United States in 1940.
Why?
Because the AMERICANS chose to be neutral.
The AMERICANS chose to not get involved when Hitler rearmed the Rhineland, occupied Czechoslovakia, and invaded Poland.
The BRITISH and the CANADIANS were allies of the French, but the AMERICANS were not allies of France, and they were not enemies of Hitler either. They were neutral. They were even neutral when Hitler devastated London.

Only after the Japanese attacked America and Hitler declared war on the United States did the United States then, and only then, become part of the Western Alliance. Before that, the United States was as useless as Brazil in defending the world from either Naziism OR Communism.

The “Western Alliance” was Britain and France. France fell, Britain was pummelled, America didn’t do anything.
Only when the Axis touched America proper did the Americans do anything, for their own reasons. They BECAME allies because they were attacked. Before they were attacked, they were not enemies of Hitler. France and Britain stood up to Hitler. France lost. Britain was pummelled. But they fought.
America let Europe go to Hell, and was never going to intervene at all, but for the fact that Hitler and Tojo attacked the US.

America crossed the line from being a mere neutral to being a useful part of the Western Alliance after Pearl Harbor. Before that, America was not a participant in the war against Hitler, and didn’t care less.


167 posted on 04/04/2007 3:25:52 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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