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Fred Thompson's church roots draw interest
The Christian Chronicle ^ | March 30, 2007 | Tamie Ross and Bobby Ross, Jr

Posted on 03/31/2007 6:03:17 AM PDT by FairOpinion

Is Fred Thompson a member of the Church of Christ?

As the 64-year-old former Tennessee senator reportedly mulls a bid for president, a number of readers have e-mailed The Christian Chronicle with that question.

The 106th Congressional Record listed Thompson’s religious affiliation as “Church of Christ (Stone Campbell).” In an interview with the U.S. News and World Report this week, Thompson spokesman Mark Corallo said: “Thompson is indeed a Christian. He was baptized into the Church of Christ.”

Corallo did not immediately return calls from the Chronicle seeking additional information about the politician and Law and Order actor’s religious background.

David Pinckley, treasurer of the Pulaski Street Church of Christ in Thompson’s hometown of Lawrenceburg, Tenn., said the two grew up together.

“We went to school together, played football, went to church for many years here in Lawrenceburg,” Pinckley told the Chronicle on Friday.

“I don’t know his religious status right now, but we were both baptized around 1951 … 1952 maybe,” Pinckley added. “We were either 10 or 11 years old then. He was baptized at the First Street church in Lawrenceburg. It’s a non-institutional church now, but it wasn’t then.”

Thompson spoke in 1997 at a fund-raising event at Freed-Hardeman University, a Henderson, Tenn., college associated with Churches of Christ. Thompson used his speaking fee to create an endowed scholarship at Freed-Hardeman for history and political science students, said Stephen Morris, assistant professor of political science and university counsel.

The Robert and Ruth Thompson academic scholarship – named after Thompson’s parents – offers freshman scholarships worth between $2,500 and $5,000. His father is deceased, but Ruth Thompson lives in Franklin, Tenn., and remains a member of the Church of Christ, Pinckley said.

Thompson’s faith became an issue in the national media when Focus on the Family founder James Dobson appeared to throw cold water on a Thompson candidacy in an interview with U.S. News.

“Everyone knows he’s conservative and has come out strongly for the things that the pro-family movement stands for,” Dobson said of Thompson. “(But) I don’t think he’s a Christian; at least that’s my impression,” Dobson added, telling U.S. News that such an impression would make it difficult for Thompson to connect with the Republican Party’s conservative Christian base and win the GOP nomination.

Focus on the Family later issued a clarifying statement, saying that in the U.S. News interview, “Dr. Dobson was attempting to highlight that to the best of his knowledge, Senator Thompson hadn’t clearly communicated his religious faith, and many evangelical Christians might find this a barrier to supporting him. Dr. Dobson told (the reporter) he had never met Senator Thompson and wasn’t certain that his understanding of the former senator’s religious convictions was accurate. Unfortunately, these qualifiers weren’t reported. … We were, however, pleased to learn from his spokesperson that Senator Thompson professes to be a believer.”

According to U.S. News, Thompson has said he is leaving the door open for a presidential run and has won plaudits from conservatives who are unenthusiastic about the Republican front-runners. A Gallup-USA Today poll, released Tuesday, showed Thompson in third place among Republican and Republican-leaning voters, behind former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Arizona Sen. John McCain.

Divorced since the mid-1980s, Thompson married Jeri Kehn, a political and media consultant 24 years his junior, at First Congregational United Church of Christ in Naperville, Ill., in 2002. They have two young children. Thompson also has two grown sons and five grandchildren.

All the discussion about Thompson’s possible Church of Christ ties prompted a humorous challenge on the blog of Mark Elrod, a Harding University political scientist, at http://www.markaelrod.net.

In a post titled “The ‘I Saw Fred Thompson at a Church of Christ’ Challenge,” Elrod offered Web immortality to the first person to provide him “with a somewhat believable Fred Thompson sighting at an assembly of the Church of Christ (Stone-Campbell) in the last 20 years.”

Elrod asked specifically for any information on Thompson teaching a Bible class, presiding at the Lord’s table or leading singing.

“If it was 728b and you can prove it,” Elrod said of Thompson leading singing, “I’ll give you $100.”

Meanwhile, a few readers have contacted the Chronicle asking if Democratic president candidate Barack Obama, an Illinois senator, is a Church of Christ member.

The answer on that question is a bit clearer: Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ, a liberal denomination that ordains women and gays and supports same-gender marriage equality. The mainline Protestant demonination was formed in 1957 when the General Council of Congregational Christian Churches and the Evangelical and Reform Church merged.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antifredfud; conservaphobia; desperation; dobson; electionpresident; elections; fred; fredthompson; rudybots; thompson
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To: FairOpinion
"Do you think Dobson is a "Rudybot"?"

I think Dobson has gotten too damn big for his britches and is trying to play kingmaker for the rest of us peons. I'll pick my own candidate, thank you.

Lord help Dobson if his mistakes ever come to light. And he has them. He's human. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. And if you spend your time looking for others, rest assured, payback will be hell.
141 posted on 03/31/2007 3:15:58 PM PDT by DesScorp (.)
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To: ClancyJ

You must forgive me, I'm not versed enough with the Church of Christ doctrine to defend or argue against it. I don't believe that baptism is necessary for salvation.


142 posted on 03/31/2007 3:58:27 PM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6a)
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To: neocon1984
I would like to judge that for myself. Do you have any references?

Fred Thompson speeches.

143 posted on 03/31/2007 4:04:02 PM PDT by jellybean (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT! Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Sloth

Thanks for the pings. I had completely forgotten that Fred listed his church affiliation as church of Christ while serving in the Senate.

Both threads are interesting. It seems inevitable that those outside the south confuse the church of Christ with ICC and UCC. The same thing happened when the Mary Winkler story first hit.


144 posted on 03/31/2007 8:11:23 PM PDT by OrangeDaisy
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To: OrangeDaisy

Do you think it is because it is outside the south? I thought the churches were all over the U.S. but of course more prominent in the South


145 posted on 03/31/2007 8:15:56 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: FairOpinion
"Do you think Forbes and Ted Olson are also "unhinged" -- since they are strong Rudy supporters?"

No, just you.

How much did you say you were getting paid to be a Rudybot here again?

146 posted on 03/31/2007 8:35:41 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: WileyPink

It does not matter what each of us believes about baptism. It matters what God wants. We are not providing salvation and eternal life, God is.

I have never understood the big hesitation of people claiming they do not believe in baptism, or baptism not required.

I would think any would be more than willing to be baptised since Jesus himself was baptised and since there are directions to from Jesus (Mark 16:15-16)

"He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will
be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."

How very selfish and petty we must appear when we are offered salvation because God gave His Son Jesus to die for our sins, Jesus suffered and did die for us. All we are required to do is profess our belief that Jesus is the Son of God, repent of our sins and be baptised for the remission of those sins and we have Jesus to intercede for us as we follow Him.

Then we come along and say "Ok, God I'll take salvation but I don't want to be baptised, you see I do not believe it is required."

What do you think God would think if that is our reply to the most wonderful gift anyone could bestow.

Are we willing to say "Ok, I would go along with accepting that gift - but, gee, baptism? I just don't think I can tolerate that".

Frankly, I would not want to take the chance that I had interpreted God's meaning correctly if I choose to ignore those verses that tell us to repent and be baptised and we will be saved.


147 posted on 03/31/2007 8:41:45 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: FairOpinion

JAMES DOBSON HAS LOST HIS CREDIBILITY. HE WAS AN AVID SUPPORTER AND FRIEND OF THE "REVEREND" TED HAGGARD A FAGGOT AND A METH ADDICT.

YEAH, DOBSON KNOWS HOW TO "JUDGE" WHO IS A CHRISTIAN ALRIGHT. I WONDER IF HE THINKS TED HAGGARD WAS/IS SAVED?

Give me a freakin' break.


148 posted on 03/31/2007 8:44:31 PM PDT by no dems (Fred Thompson for Prez /Herman Cain for VEEP in '08)
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To: M203M4

That is classic. It says it all and is funny.


149 posted on 03/31/2007 8:51:16 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: montag813
Dobson never endorsed Gingrich nor withheld support from Thompson. You're simply wrong.
150 posted on 03/31/2007 8:57:29 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: lesser_satan
Thompson is somebody both the religious-right types and libertarian-types can like, and he won't scare away moderates or swing-voters. He's eloquent and charismatic and has far less baggage than anybody else in the race.

Well, I don't agree that he has far less baggage than anybody else running, but I do think that if Thompson got the nomination that people that support other conservative candidates would have no qualms about getting behind him for the win.

153 posted on 04/01/2007 12:46:35 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: ClancyJ

I never said that a person SHOULD NOT be baptized. I said it's not necessary for salvation. The first example in this discussion is the thief on the cross. You're right. It doesn't matter what we think. I was saved by grace through faith. Water has no redemptive qualities. It does show, however, a desire to follow Christ's example.

In Christ


154 posted on 04/01/2007 5:06:45 AM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6a)
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To: streetpreacher
Dobson never endorsed Gingrich nor withheld support from Thompson. You're simply wrong.

I said neither of those things in my post.

155 posted on 04/01/2007 5:56:37 AM PDT by montag813
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To: JMack
That said, you make the argument for why the Republicans should go with someone else. You'll vote for someone else, but a ton of Freepers won't vote for Rudy

You lose me with that argument - it's the same old, "If you don't play it my way we won't play at all." Obviously, at least at this point, Republicans who favor Giuliani outnumber the radical social right. The whole Terri Schiavo mess scared the crap out of a lot of us. We do NOT want federal government involved to that degree in our ethical and religious decisions. You argue we should deal with our differences by converting completely to your point of view. We argue that if you're going to participate as a Republican, you need to go along with what the majority of the party decides.

156 posted on 04/01/2007 7:19:33 AM PDT by Spyder (Dysrudybot - someone stricken with HGS, or Hate Giuliani Syndrome. Incurable.)
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To: FairOpinion
I just wikipedia'd up the Church of Christ and found this...

Churches of Christ generally emphasize their intent to simply be part of the original church established by Jesus Christ in his death, burial, and resurrection, which became evident on the Day of Pentecost as described in the New Testament in Acts 2. Churches of Christ emphasize the use of only the New Testament to find doctrine, ecclesiastical structure, and moral beliefs, while maintaining that the Old Testament is also the inspired Word of God, is historically accurate, and that its principles remain true and beneficial (although its laws are not binding under the new covenant in Christ unless otherwise taught in the New Testament).

Members of the churches of Christ point out that throughout church history many have sought a return to the simple, original Christianity that is "pre-denominational" and unbound by the decisions of councils or denominational hierarchies.

Members do not consider themselves either Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant. They hold to the biblical and historical reality that the church was founded by Jesus Christ, and that its doctrines and practices were established long before these other traditions, movements, structures, councils, etc. The church therefore biblically, historically and spiritually transcends these other entities that developed later within denominationalism. Members also do not typically consider themselves to be members of a denomination, but prefer to simply be "Christians" (in contrast to, for example, a Catholic, Presbyterian, Baptist, etc.), with no other religious title needed or even authorized.

This pretty much sums up my personal faith. Are you implying that there is something wrong with such beliefs?

157 posted on 04/01/2007 7:25:41 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: neocon1984
Michael Medved brought up a good question yesterday. He wondered is Fred really wants to run. Does he have the fire-in-the-belly to engage in the grueling work needed to raise money and campaign?

Medved is the spokesman for the liberal wing of the GOP. It's good to see that Thompson has him worrying too.

158 posted on 04/01/2007 8:02:48 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: FairOpinion

We aren't electing a pope, and America doesn't want a king--the head of the national church.

I want a leader who can take us through these current troubles without destroying our nation.


159 posted on 04/01/2007 8:06:11 AM PDT by bannie
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To: ClancyJ
No, being a member of the Church of Christ is not a bad thing unless you think following the instructions for salvation provided in the Bible is a bad thing. If you cconfess your faith that Jesus is the Son of God, repent of your past sins and are baptised for the remission of those sins, you are a Christian starting a new life following Jesus through the days of your life. Jesus paid the price for man's sins since man can never be perfect enough to dwell with God. So God sent His Son as the one time pure sacrifice to pay for the sins of man. We just have to accept the ultimate gift of salvation and follow the instructions to receive the gift. Confess your belief, repent of prior sins, be baptised for the remission of those sins and you arise to walk with Jesus the rest of your days.

AMEN! Yoou just said the same thing I was trying to say in post 157, but more eloquently.

160 posted on 04/01/2007 8:28:38 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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