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To: Rick_Michael
I once foolishly brought up the subject of air powered cars on an alternative energy thread. Man, I was excoriated as a greenie dimwit.

I still think air powered along with other alternative fuels will make up the mosaic of fuels that will be offered at refueling stations across America.

Or, people may fall in love with refueling air tanks or electric vehicles at home and in the future choose that of car.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing at all.

17 posted on 03/30/2007 7:39:54 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: aligncare

"I once foolishly brought up the subject of air powered cars on an alternative energy thread. Man, I was excoriated as a greenie dimwit."

It shouldn't be this way. Alternative shouldn't be a liberal thing. It's our responsiblity to review these things and not prejudge them as only for the Greenies.



"It doesn't have to be all or nothing at all."

Of coarse not, and I agree. I think biodisels along with other forms of energy in the long-run will win out.

I do think we should drill in Alaska and on the coast, but we have to keep our eyes open for things like this. Who knows, it could live up to the hype.


28 posted on 03/30/2007 7:49:34 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: aligncare

I would drive anything that cuts down on my household overhead. Low-mileage cars are not helpful at $3 + per gallon (in the Chicago area). Plus I don't like my tax money going into the hands of the Crook County Government which is what the bulk of that cost per gallon is around here.


47 posted on 03/30/2007 8:09:22 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: aligncare
I still think air powered along with other alternative fuels will make up the mosaic of fuels that will be offered at refueling stations across America.

Except the air is not a fuel, it is just a transmitting agent.

57 posted on 03/30/2007 8:18:39 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: aligncare

300 bars is about 4,500 psi; my home compressor wakes up the neighbors before it reaches 120 psi.

To pump one cubic meter takes about 9 minutes so 90 cubic meters would require at least 90 minutes if the power was proportional to the load which it isn't.

4-5 hours or more of deafening racket in your garage while you desperately need to rest before you awake to fend off your red eyed, sleep-deprived fence buddy could get tiresome after a day or so.


A 20 HP engine will have an air demand of roughly 90CFM so theoretically on level ground a frictionless vehicle could run for 308 minutes; real world efficiencies, friction, accessories, etc. we can allow only 25-30% so we allow the claim of 124 miles traveled at much lower speeds than 60MPH but still have a small problem of where the energy to run the compressor come from.

Going back to my first caveat concerning noise, the linked video has an accompanying sound level that almost drowns out the narrator so it is safe to assume that any attempts to muffle the "engine" will result in a concomitant reduction in transmitted power.

All in all it sounds as though this a bit hard to take lying down without a pillow stuffed in your ears.


191 posted on 04/01/2007 8:59:12 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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