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To: mnehrling

Agnosticism is an intellectually defensible position.

Atheism is not.


14 posted on 03/30/2007 6:53:22 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I'd still like to know how atheists believe in "matter in motion".

Rocks, dirt, minerals, etc. don't move on their own. "A body at rest stays at rest" as Newton pointed out.

So what is the source of movement in the cosmos and on earth?

What gives living things the ability to move, but dead things cannot? The chemical composition of a recently dead person and a person about to die is identical, but one can do many things the other cannot. What is the atheist's explanation?


22 posted on 03/30/2007 7:07:21 PM PDT by Andrew Byler
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To: Sherman Logan
Agnosticism is an intellectually defensible position. Atheism is not.

Depends on your definition of 'atheism.' If by atheism you refer to militant atheism, where the possibility that any sort of deity might exist is denied in priciple, then you are correct. But that definition of atheism is a strawman lacking any utility, since few 'atheits' are actually that dogmatic and closed-minded.

The preferred definition of atheism refers to the belief that the evidence for the existence of deity is so weak that it's safe to assume in practice that it doesn't exist, even though in principle (in theory) deity may in fact exist.

25 posted on 03/30/2007 7:11:23 PM PDT by sourcery (Government Warning: The Attorney General has determined that Federal Regulation is a health hazard)
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To: Sherman Logan

A quote I read long ago and have forgotten the attribution:
"Sir, I am not an athiest, I'm an agnostic. I don't pretend to know what many ignorant people are sure of."


55 posted on 03/30/2007 8:27:52 PM PDT by common tater (Tighten yer cinches folks, it's gonna be a rough ride.)
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To: Sherman Logan
[Agnosticism is an intellectually defensible position.]

An gnostic is just a person too lazy to intellectually defend his atheism.

Godspeed,

124 posted on 03/31/2007 10:45:08 AM PDT by thedilg (1)
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