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To: arnoldpalmerfan
Your statement, "House Republicans overwhelmingly supported HR 4437", is correct, but it is not accurate.

An accurate statement would be that "some House republicans supported HR 4437 as a stand alone, enforcement only immigration bill and some House republicans supported HR 4437 as the enforcement provision that was to be merged with the Senate's immigration reform bill".

When the House's HR 4437 reached the Senate, the Senate made some changes to the enforcement and added reform. From there, the bill was to go to conference committee, and compromised to a final bill to be voted on by the Senate and the House.

Of course, House leadership(Hastert) knew that the Borderbots had lost, that if the compromise bill came back to the House, there were enough votes on the House floor to pass it. In fact, Tancredo said several times in the media that he could stop the Senate's bill only if Hastert honored his pledge.

Rather than go to conference committe, the Hastert/Borderbots walked away from the legislative process. This contributed to the electoral bloodbath for Republicans.

Nothing has changed. Except that the dems control Congress and they will easily manuever the GOP into a more extreme and strident position of trying to block any and everything. This will cause further losses for the GOP in 08.

In case you don't know it, we are in the 110th Congress. All those bills from the 109th were wiped out. Where is your bill for this Congress? Who is writing it? When will it be submitted?

What's that you say, you don't have a bill?

49 posted on 03/31/2007 11:59:33 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Why are you afraid to say what presidential candidate you are supporting?

Why are you afraid to say whether you supported passage of H.R.4437?

Why are you afraid to say whether you supported passage of S.6211?

Why are you afraid to say whether you support giving illegal aliens legal status and a path to citizenship?

What Republican members of the United States Senate and United State House of Representatives are extremist kooks?


50 posted on 03/31/2007 12:08:18 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008 - www.electtancredo.com and www.teamtancredo.com)
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To: Ben Ficklin

It is my understanding that approximately 11.5% of all Republican seats in Congress were lost when Democrats won control of Congress in November 2007. Approximately 6.7% of the members of Rep. Tancredo's Immigration Reform Caucus lost their seats.

Why did the members of Rep. Tancredo's caucus retain their seats at a higher rate than Republicans did overall in Congress?


52 posted on 03/31/2007 12:14:34 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008 - www.electtancredo.com and www.teamtancredo.com)
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To: Ben Ficklin

The Senate added an amnesty that would have provided millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a path to citizenship.

Do you support rewarding millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a path to cititzenship?


53 posted on 03/31/2007 12:16:36 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008 - www.electtancredo.com and www.teamtancredo.com)
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To: Ben Ficklin

What member of the United States Senate or House not running for president best represents your views with regard to illegal immigration and legal immigration?


55 posted on 03/31/2007 12:17:33 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008 - www.electtancredo.com and www.teamtancredo.com)
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To: Ben Ficklin

The House passing H.R.4437 and refusing to support the Senate amnesty for millions of illegal aliens did not contribute to the GOP bloodbath.

Jack Abramoff contributed to that bloodbath. Mark Foley contributed to it. The failure of President Bush to secure this nation's borders contributed to teh bloodbath. The public's dissatisfaction with President Bush's Iraq policy contributed to it.

How many of the Democrats that defeated incumbent Repbulicans do you believe will support an amnesty proposal like the Senate passed last year? Do you believe Heath Shuler or Brad Ellsworth will support it? You may support rewarding millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a path to citizenship, but they don't.

The Senate should have passed H.R.4437 without an amnesty attached an amnesty to it.


58 posted on 03/31/2007 12:23:56 PM PDT by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008 - www.electtancredo.com and www.teamtancredo.com)
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