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To: saganite

I think we all need to take a deep breath, step back and remember- saying "the Saudis" is a lot like them saying "the Americans". We have both good friends and complete jacka$$ enemies in KSA. I think they are possibly doing as they did after 9/11 when they asked us to leave and we found ourselves unable to patrol the no fly zone from Saudi airfields- and even more bizarre, betrothen to protect the royal family but not have our forces on KSA soil doing it.
Every President since before Carter had to be cozy with them, they were the catalyst which broke the soviet's back financially by flooding the market of world petroleum supplies. (interesting when Clinton's former FBI head told all I was wringing my hands hoping we'd get the SOB for more than the charges we'd had before- then realized quickly the library endowment was a customary gift that would be an insult to refuse)
It's the opening of the Arab summit. Perhaps just talk of distancing themselves from us to appease the home front.
Some of the leftist sites are gloating at this as Bush's failure- yet it's been them pounding, pounding the message to the world for four years about an illegal war of agression. Idiots! I hope they are happy with THEIR handiwork, for the middle east the leaders are surely trying to appease discount the original mission of disarming Saddam and the promise of a better future for all thanks to their lies.
Is it liberal season yet? Where do I buy tags?


40 posted on 03/28/2007 6:41:17 PM PDT by batvette
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To: batvette

You have more ignorance than a monkey can shake a stick at. I truly believe you are a troll here.

"I think they are possibly doing as they did after 9/11 when they asked us to leave and we found ourselves unable to patrol the no fly zone from Saudi airfields- and even more bizarre, betrothen to protect the royal family but not have our forces on KSA soil doing it."

They did not ask us to leave after 9/11. We continued to use Saudi airfields before the Afghan invasion, during the Afghan invasion and after the Afghan invasion. It was not until after the invasion of Iraq that we quit using Saudi airfields.

"Every President since before Carter had to be cozy with them, they were the catalyst which broke the soviet's back financially by flooding the market of world petroleum supplies."

Rubbish to the nth degree. While oil prices declined in the mid-to-late seventies, it had nothing to do with any agreement between Carter and the Saudis. World supply, via the Soviets (far east), British (North Sea), Mexico, Venezuala, US in the Gulf of Mexico and others had (in response to the Opec cartel) created new supply faster than demand. The world economy was not expanding fast enough. The Saudis kept their contribution to the supply at levels more commensurate to the late 1960s, in spite of all the new suppliers. Why? Because even though it depressed prices for all oil sellers (US oil companies as well, not just the Soviets), the Saudi huge portion of the world supply meant that it still made more than enough revenue, because Saudi light crude has one of the cheapest extraction costs. Carter had nothing to do with it. It was simple, typical Saudi greed.

While this hurt the Soviets economically, for a little while, the inability to compete with the Reagan military buildup later, in the 1980s is what finally bankrupted them. No thanks to Carter who had been lowering our military profile.


42 posted on 03/29/2007 3:23:25 PM PDT by Wuli
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