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To: pgyanke
Considering Pelagianism was condemned as heresy by the Catholic Church, I would love to see your sources..

Read Augustine vs Pelagius, and then the Council of Trent.

They just don't call it Pelagianism. They do deny that salvation is a complete and total gift. They had to, after Luther.

Fortunately, there are many in the RC church whose hearts are much better than their heads.

129 posted on 03/27/2007 1:10:05 PM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
So let me get this straight... The Church recognizes Pelagianism as heresy. However, the Church likes this heresy so they condemn the name and keep the concept. About a millenium later, along comes DreamsofPolycarp who has the fullness of wisdom to recognize what centuries of Popes, Doctors of the Church, Bishops, Priests, Deacons and faithful lay people could not.

Forgive me if your explanation is lacking in humility and authenticity.

165 posted on 03/27/2007 1:47:30 PM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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