"Down 13 points? Oh, please, I didn't mean it when I said 'dumb Christian conservatives.'
I kinda, sorta like conservatives. Me and my handlers just don't want 'em anywhere near my campaign."
Posted on 03/27/2007 6:32:11 AM PDT by pissant
Play along with me this morning. Would you vote for the following candidate? This person supports parental notification laws and a ban on partial birth abortion; is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and believes mariage is between a man and a woman. Don't look any further. In your mind, does this candidate seem attractive? Yes or No?
Guess what. That's how Rudy Giuliani describes himself. If you go to his website, that's how he lays out his positions on three very sensitive topics. What about this bleeding heart socially liberal Republican. As you might imagine, it is nowhere to be found on his website. The Brody File has pulled the three parapgraphs from his website that lay out his position on abortion, guns and marriage.
Abortion:
"Rudy Giuliani supports reasonable restrictions on abortion such as parental notification with a judicial bypass and a ban on partial birth abortion – except when the life of the mother is at stake. He’s proud that adoptions increased 66% while abortions decreased over 16% in New York City when he was Mayor. But Rudy understands that this is a deeply personal moral dilemma, and people of good conscience can disagree respectfully. Ultimately he believes that it is a decision between a woman, her doctor, her family, and her God."
Guns:
"Rudy Giuliani is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. When he was Mayor of a city suffering an average of almost 2000 murders a year, he protected people by getting illegal handguns out of the hands of criminals. As a result, shootings fell by 72% and the murder rate was cut by two-thirds. But Rudy understands that what works in New York doesn’t necessarily work in Mississippi or Montana."
Marriage:
"Rudy Giuliani believes marriage is between a man and a woman. He does not - and has never - supported gay marriage. But he believes in equal rights under law for all Americans. That's why he supports domestic partnerships that provide stability for committed partners in important legal and personal matters, while preserving the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman."
If you were an Evangelical who just stepped onto this Earth from Planet Pluto (oh wait,sorry, Pluto is no longer a Planet. I thought scientists were "always" right?), after reading that, you may not understand why a large segment of Evangelicals may have a problem with Rudy. But the religious conservatives who live here on Earth might think those paragraphs on his website are just a tad bit disengenous. Actually, now that I think of it, I'm sure others have a much different word for it. Does the way he portrays himself on his website bother you or do you just chalk it up to political spin just like every other candidate out there? Comments?
Unfortunately for Republicans who think Rudy is the only person who can win, he can't do it without conservative Evangelicals.
"Rudy Giuliani is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment....what works in New York doesn't necessarily work in Mississippi or Montana."
Rudy:
"The Constitution and Bill of Rights ends at the borders of New York City. Or as POTUS - any dam place I say."
Okay, okay, he didn't say that. He said this..
"Freedom is about Authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority."
Hey! Wait a sec, I don't see a difference?!?!
Hillary's website says the same thing:)
if that's the choice,
what are you going to do?
"Down 13 points? Oh, please, I didn't mean it when I said 'dumb Christian conservatives.'
I kinda, sorta like conservatives. Me and my handlers just don't want 'em anywhere near my campaign."
You are seriously delusional! If you cannot tell the difference between Rudy and Clinton (either one), you cannot tell sh** from Shinola.
Unfortunately yes, if it comes down between he and Hillary.
Hell, there won't be a bill of rights when he gets done with us!
"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it." -Mayor Giuliani, New York Newsday pg A3 4/20/98
"State authority must provide for peace and order, and peace and order in turn must conversely make possible the existence of state authority. Within these two poles all life must now revolve...Ideas of 'freedom,' mostly of a misunderstood nature, inject themselves into the state conceptions of these circles". -Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf
it is not tired.
the reality is,
hillary vs rudi
may be the
choice.
what are you going to do? elect hillary?
False Choice Fallacy
I haven't decided whether I would vote for Rudy or join the Hari Krishnas.
uh duh.
Oh, I agree completely.
I cannot imagine why any evangelical would vote for Rudy in the primaries.
But if they stay home during the general? Then they deserve the regional minority party they will have inherited.
I've held my nose in just about every general election, voting for the lesser of two evils. Is that too much to ask from these folks?
Reagan's change of views did not coincide with seeking higher office. Reagan also never addressed NARAL. Twice.
I can understand the difference, it's just that there isn't much of one.
Oh, and in the future, i hope you can post without the personal attacks. You have violated FR's posting policy.
i'm not pro-rudi.
i'm anti-hillary.
another 8 years of the clintons would be a nightmare!
"BTW, a non vote IS a vote for the Democrats."
So?
If the candidate for Side A is Hitler and the Candidate for Side B is Mussolini
What difference does it make?
I'm not calling either candidate democrat or republican hitler and mussolini, but the difference between any democrat front runner and the Liberal wing of the Republican party is negligible.
A Liberal is still a Liberal no matter what party they are in.
He won't.
Ya voting Democrat then?
Third party.
L
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