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Lessons Of 'The 300'
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| March 25, 2007
| Jack kelly
Posted on 03/26/2007 6:36:58 AM PDT by RDTF
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To: Longinus
I saw the first 300 spartans years ago as a kid but will certainly watch as soon as I get a copy. From what I temember of it though I won't change my mind, but I will watch.
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posted on
03/26/2007 11:08:02 AM PDT
by
eleni121
( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
To: Longinus; USMMA_83
the Persians employed killer rhinos
Aww c'mon!
Ever heard of dramatic license? Imagine what the Greeks though when they reailzed that Asia was invading...and long before fox news 24-7. Rumors and rumors of rumors...must have caused terror and panic among the inhabitants.
Again read Herodotus and here is a paraphrase of it. Much of what Herodotus wrote is in the film.
http://www.shunya.net/Text/Herodotus/TheWar.htm
122
posted on
03/26/2007 11:15:30 AM PDT
by
eleni121
( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
To: Longinus
God certainly didn't. He commanded the Jews to destroy entire cities.
Even Jesus brought a sword, even if what He was referring to was His tongue.
He promised division, not unity, turning mother against son, and father against daughter.
123
posted on
03/26/2007 11:23:55 AM PDT
by
RinaseaofDs
(Ignorance should be painful)
To: Kirkwood
I agree with you more than you realize. I think this is a failing of our war policy. We should have some sort of system set up over there were we broadcast - at 100,000 watts - what is considered cowardice and evil in our view. It may not change them but we need to explain our concept of good and evil. I agree with what you said about military foce and size - as long as it defeats evil.
124
posted on
03/26/2007 11:37:31 AM PDT
by
7thson
(I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
To: Longinus
I have no such confusion.
To: webstersII
Rewards in heaven and going to heaven are two different things. The NT talks about rewards in heaven and how some people will get more rewards in heaven than others. See 1 Cor. 13. Martyrdom for Christ grants the ultimate reward.
126
posted on
03/26/2007 11:51:21 AM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: subterfuge; webstersII
Bearing false witness, oldie? I already provided a source.
127
posted on
03/26/2007 11:52:39 AM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: webstersII; subterfuge
He's a troll trying to stir up trouble. What trouble? Disagreeing about a movie based on a comic book? Or disagreeing about martyrdom leads to heaven? Are you some sort of brain washed Jones Town types that freak out that others may have opinions - non political opinions even - different from yours?
That is '1984' like thinking by you.
128
posted on
03/26/2007 11:55:05 AM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: eleni121; webstersII; subterfuge
Ever heard of dramatic license? Of course - that is why I am kind of shocked that people are using a comic book inspired movie to get all pumped up about. It must be a good movie if people think this movie is a sign from above.
I will repeat again - I loved the movie. I loved the comic book. I don't consider this movie a realistic outlook on real life.
At least as an Orthodox Christian you accept the dogma that non violent martyrdom (unlike war making jihadist version) for Christ is rewarded in paradise.
129
posted on
03/26/2007 11:58:11 AM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: RinaseaofDs
God certainly didn't. He commanded the Jews to destroy entire cities. He commanded. Unless the human being can prove God said so directly then he is a liar and a false witness.
If you want to worship a homicidal version Jesus go right ahead.
130
posted on
03/26/2007 12:02:52 PM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: MeanWestTexan
I don't know what you think.
Taking up arms is not a holy mission and being killed in battle does not lead to martyrdom.
St. Augustine wrote down what is a just war and what is not and a just war is never taken to spread the word of Jesus and only for defensive purposes.
131
posted on
03/26/2007 12:05:33 PM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: Longinus
"Martyrdom for Christ grants the ultimate reward."
The ultimate reward in heaven, yes, not the access to heaven.
To: Longinus
"Bearing false witness, oldie?"
Pretty strong words.
I was trying to have a civil discussion with you. I have not called you names or accused you of nefarious intentions. If you wish to get in the gutter for this discussion go find one somewhere else.
To: processing please hold
To: processing please hold
To: webstersII
The ultimate reward in heaven, yes, not the access to heaven. That is an illogical statement - there are no degrees in heaven. One heaven under one godhead.
You make it sound that the martyrs will get a luxury condo in heaven.
The reward is the remission of sins.
That as been orthodox dogma for 2,000 years - May I ask what Protestant sect denies martyrdom for Christ leads to salvation? I assumed even Protestants said as much. But you know what happens when you assume.
136
posted on
03/26/2007 12:11:40 PM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: webstersII; subterfuge
I was trying to have a civil discussion with you. I have not called you names or accused you of nefarious intentions. If you wish to get in the gutter for this discussion go find one somewhere else. subterfuge used those words about me when he addressed you. I was replying to him not to you but I pinged you out of courtesy because the remarks about me were directed at you.
It was my intent to keep you in the loop not to accuse you.
I do counter accuse subterfuge though.
137
posted on
03/26/2007 12:15:33 PM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: Young Scholar
My 6th sense new you meant sound over sounds.
138
posted on
03/26/2007 12:16:41 PM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: Young Scholar
My 6th sense knew you meant sound over sounds. knew not new - lol
139
posted on
03/26/2007 12:16:55 PM PDT
by
Longinus
("Whom did it benefit". (Cui Bono Fuerit) Longinus Cassius Roman conspirator & general (? - 42 BC))
To: Young Werther
They don't like history because they have never bothered to open the books. In part it is because educationsts hate the idea of narrative history. However many students, even in college, have read something like Parkman's "Oregon Trail?"
140
posted on
03/26/2007 12:17:03 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
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