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PURE PROPAGANDA - THE GREAT GLOBAL WARMING SWINDLE (Did GGWS present inaccurate information?)
Media Lens ^ | 03/13/2007

Posted on 03/25/2007 7:55:15 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Ultra Sonic 007; All

"... the scientific consensus ..."

THERE IS NO SUCH THING - SO THIS IS A FALSE PREMISE TO BEGIN WITH.

In science, you can either prove it or you cannot. I don't know how many scientists have signed up with Algore's theory .. but I think it was around 700 or so.

However, there are 17,000 scientists who have signed an ANTI-GLOBAL WARMING document.

So .. THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS - AND PLEASE STOP PEOPLE WHEN THEY TELL YOU THAT.


21 posted on 03/25/2007 8:31:22 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("... first time in history the U.S. House has attempted to surrender via C-SPAN TV ...")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

If you get flak, you're over the target.

That's all this is.

Notice most of it is "attack the messengers", not the science. If you can't refute it, obfuscate.


22 posted on 03/25/2007 8:34:57 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: digger48
clear-cut proof is not now available and may not be available for a long-time to come, if ever. Public policy has to be made on the basis of probabilities, not firm proof.

The same principle, however, does not apply when making decisions about war and peace. Then only absolute and final proof can justify a decision to invade another country.

Of course such proof can never be obtained until after an invasion.

23 posted on 03/25/2007 8:36:45 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I just changed channels and Falwell is talking about how false global warming is. He does not believe in it.


24 posted on 03/25/2007 8:37:17 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
At the Senate hearing last week Al Gore boycotted what was supposed to be the Republican opening statement on this issue. Then he demanded "bipartisan cooperation." Gore appeared a few years ago at the Hollywood premiere of "The Day after Tomorrow"--an absurd science fiction fantasy about climate change with a Dick Cheney villain. Al Gore has politicized "global warming" and attempted to turn the scientific community against itself. He has become the little boy who cried, "Wolf!" What is sad is you can't even watch the Weather Channel or read Sports Illustrated without running into "global warming" politics.
25 posted on 03/25/2007 8:37:28 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (")
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To: FreedomPoster

Polar bears make beautiful posters to gain sympathy for the cause. But whatever happened to baby seals, spotted owls, the adorable dolphins, and those reindeer critters in Alaska?


26 posted on 03/25/2007 8:39:32 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten these.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
”CO2 lagging Temperature increase:
" Once that CO2 has been released into the atmosphere its heat-trapping properties as a greenhouse gas lead to even stronger warming: an example of positive feedback.."

In other words, “CO2 adds to some mysterious warming trend.”

Man these people are loons.

27 posted on 03/25/2007 8:44:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Liberty Wins

The "reindeer critters in Alaska" love the warmth of the pipeline, and birth their babies around it. I can only guess they'd thrive in warmer temperatures.

If nothing else, like the polar bears, their very presence proves they survived a much warmer time.


28 posted on 03/25/2007 8:47:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou

Notice most of it is "attack the messengers", not the science. If you can't refute it, obfuscate.

Sort of like a trail lawyer: If the facts aren't on your side argue the law. If the law isn't on your side argue the facts. If neither are on your side, pound on the table.

29 posted on 03/25/2007 8:56:31 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Jackson Brown

Oh gosh darn! That's the first thing to look for! Good catch. These guys think the msm is right wing.


30 posted on 03/25/2007 9:03:03 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
”CO2 lagging Temperature increase:
" Once that CO2 has been released into the atmosphere its heat-trapping properties as a greenhouse gas lead to even stronger warming: an example of positive feedback.."

In other words, “CO2 adds to some mysterious warming trend.”

Man these people are loons.

What they fail to explain is that "positive feedback" (aka "feed forward" loops) have the interesting characteristic that they culminate in some climatic event. An example is orgasm. What, I wonder, does he propose as the culminating event to this feed forward scenario?

31 posted on 03/25/2007 9:05:49 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Follow the (public tax dollars for "grants" and "studies") money.


32 posted on 03/25/2007 9:11:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
“Scientists have examined various proxies of solar energy output over the past 1,000 years and have found no evidence that they are correlated with today's rising temperatures. Satellite observations over the past 30 years have also turned up nothing. ‘The solar contribution to warming... is negligible,’ the researchers wrote in the journal Nature.

The don't talk about the graphing of sun spots and how sunspots corresponds with temperature change, as presented in the movie. They want to dismiss it with this nothing comment.
33 posted on 03/25/2007 9:13:54 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: lafroste

Dude that is funny has hell.


34 posted on 03/25/2007 9:16:44 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: digger48; Ultra Sonic 007
"Public policy has to be made on the basis of probabilities, not firm proof."

No, it doesn't. Science may not be consensus, but at least we would need consensus on the probabilities, and we don't have it.

Why should we cripple and bankrupt ourselves over this hyped-up and misrepresented "calamity" when we almost totally ignore another possible global threat?

I'd like to see us spend a fraction of what Al Gore and his neo-Luddites would have us waste, on a system of detecting and dealing with the threat of large asteroids impacting Earth.

The probabilities involved in such a scenario are a lot easier to calculate, and the amelioration far less expensive for the desired results.

35 posted on 03/25/2007 9:21:03 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I know where I have gone wrong, and I can cite it, chapter and verse.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Al Gore has politicized "global warming" and attempted to turn the scientific community against itself. He has become the little boy who cried, "Wolf!"

The environmental movement cries wolf. Al Gore joined the chorus.

"Okay, so, the preachers made a mistake. They got one prediction wrong; they're human. So what. Unfortunately, it's not just one prediction. It's a whole slew of them. We are running out of oil. We are running out of all natural resources. Paul Ehrlich: 60 million Americans will die of starvation in the 1980s. Forty thousand species become extinct every year. Half of all species on the planet will be extinct by 2000. And on and on and on.

"With so many past failures, you might think that environmental predictions would become more cautious. But not if it's a religion. Remember, the nut on the sidewalk carrying the placard that predicts the end of the world doesn't quit when the world doesn't end on the day he expects. He just changes his placard, sets a new doomsday date, and goes back to walking the streets. One of the defining features of religion is that your beliefs are not troubled by facts, because they have nothing to do with facts." -- "Environmentalism as Religion" Michael Crichton

36 posted on 03/25/2007 9:21:24 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

What of this......

NASA Finds Sun-Climate Connection in Old Nile Records

http://newsblaze.com/story/20070320093052tsop.nb/newsblaze/TOPSTORY/Top-Stories.html

NASA Finds Sun-Climate Connection in Old Nile Records
Long-term climate records are a key to understanding how Earth's climate changed in the past and how it may change in the future. Direct measurements of light energy emitted by the sun, taken by satellites and other modern scientific techniques, suggest variations in the sun's activity influence Earth's long-term climate. However, there were no measured climate records of this type until the relatively recent scientific past.

Scientists have traditionally relied upon indirect data gathering methods to study climate in the Earth's past, such as drilling ice cores in Greenland and Antarctica. Such samples of accumulated snow and ice drilled from deep within ice sheets or glaciers contain trapped air bubbles whose composition can provide a picture of past climate conditions. Now, however, a group of NASA and university scientists has found a convincing link between long-term solar and climate variability in a unique and unexpected source: directly measured ancient water level records of the Nile, Earth's longest river.

Alexander Ruzmaikin and Joan Feynman of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., together with Dr. Yuk Yung of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif., have analyzed Egyptian records of annual Nile water levels collected between 622 and 1470 A.D. at Rawdah Island in Cairo. These records were then compared to another well-documented human record from the same time period: observations of the number of auroras reported per decade in the Northern Hemisphere. Auroras are bright glows in the night sky that happen when mass is rapidly ejected from the sun's corona, or following solar flares. They are an excellent means of tracking variations in the sun's activity.

Feynman said that while ancient Nile and auroral records are generally "spotty," that was not the case for the particular 850-year period they studied.

"Since the time of the pharaohs, the water levels of the Nile were accurately measured, since they were critically important for agriculture and the preservation of temples in Egypt," she said. "These records are highly accurate and were obtained directly, making them a rare and unique resource for climatologists to peer back in time."

A similarly accurate record exists for auroral activity during the same time period in northern Europe and the Far East. People there routinely and carefully observed and recorded auroral activity, because auroras were believed to portend future disasters, such as droughts and the deaths of kings.

"A great deal of modern scientific effort has gone into collecting these ancient auroral records, inter-comparing them and evaluating their accuracy," Ruzmaikin said. "They have been successfully used by aurora experts around the world to study longer time scale variations."

The researchers found some clear links between the sun's activity and climate variations. The Nile water levels and aurora records had two somewhat regularly occurring variations in common - one with a period of about 88 years and the second with a period of about 200 years.

The researchers said the findings have climate implications that extend far beyond the Nile River basin.

"Our results characterize not just a small region of the upper Nile, but a much more extended part of Africa," said Ruzmaikin. "The Nile River provides drainage for approximately 10 percent of the African continent. Its two main sources - Lake Tana in Ethiopia and Lake Victoria in Tanzania, Uganda and Kenya - are in equatorial Africa. Since Africa's climate is interrelated to climate variability in the Indian and Atlantic Oceans, these findings help us better understand climate change on a global basis."

So what causes these cyclical links between solar variability and the Nile? The authors suggest that variations in the sun's ultraviolet energy cause adjustments in a climate pattern called the Northern Annular Mode, which affects climate in the atmosphere of the Northern Hemisphere during the winter. At sea level, this mode becomes the North Atlantic Oscillation, a large-scale seesaw in atmospheric mass that affects how air circulates over the Atlantic Ocean. During periods of high solar activity, the North Atlantic Oscillation's influence extends to the Indian Ocean. These adjustments may affect the distribution of air temperatures, which subsequently influence air circulation and rainfall at the Nile River's sources in eastern equatorial Africa. When solar activity is high, conditions are drier, and when it is low, conditions are wetter.

Study findings were recently published in the Journal of Geophysical Research.

Source: JPL

judythpiazza@gmail.com


37 posted on 03/25/2007 9:21:33 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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"The graph, Real Climate comments, “looks rather odd and may have been carefully selected”. It appears to show a dramatic cooling between the 1940s and 1970s. But try flipping between the film’s version of the global temperature record (shown above left) and the temperature plot that normally appears in the scientific literature (shown above right) The supposed cooling looks rather less evident in this second graph.

Without knowing more details of how Durkin may have manipulated the data plotted in his graph, it is difficult to comment on the presentation. What we can say is that Durkin’s "four decades of cooling", implying a relentless temperature drop over 40 years, is not an accurate description of the trend over this period.

Now who's being deceptive? (again) If they are now saying this wasn't true, then what did these global warming alarmists base all their "global cooling" cries in the 70's on? Surely they don't think we have forgotten all the cries of imminent doom and gloom, and how we needed to take immediate action to stop "global cooling".

That's the problem with lying. Eventually a liar forgets the lies he's told previously and ends up contradicting himself.

38 posted on 03/25/2007 9:22:10 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Brad from Tennessee

""The Day after Tomorrow"


I LOVE that movie! Of course I love whole earth disaster movies as a whole anyway!


39 posted on 03/25/2007 9:22:21 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

There is value in having the ability to make people believe in nonsense.


40 posted on 03/25/2007 9:23:02 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (If the Moon didn't exist, people would have traveled to Mars by now.)
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