Posted on 03/25/2007 9:27:43 AM PDT by jdm
FIFTEEN British sailors and marines arrested by Iran off the coast of Iraq could be charged with spying and held until the US releases five Iranian Revolutionary Guards seized by US forces in Iraq earlier this year.
Reports yesterday said a website run by associates of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had reported that the arrested Britons would be put before a court and indicted.
Referring to them as "insurgents", the site said: "If it is proven that they deliberately entered Iranian territory, they will be charged with espionage. If that is proven, they can expect a very serious penalty since, according to Iranian law, espionage is one of the most serious offences."
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Reports suggest he was following his orders. Apparently he immediately called the highest political levels in Britain (as he was required to do, again apparently) and was ordered NOT to use force against the hostage takers.
Perhaps Iran can get Ramsey Clark to fill the role of Prosecutor.
If you're real quiet and listen intently off in the distance you can hear the sound of British insignia/Union Jacks being painted upon Israeli F-15s and F-16s!
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ROFLMAO!
We have a major problem. Both the UK and the US are full of anti-American and anti-British traitors. The program to emasculate the Western male has been an almost complete success. Men are no longer prepared to stand up and deal with people like these forcefully. (can I say "forcefully" anymore?, its not PC (er, within the guidelines of the fascist ruling elite)
read some of these comments from British people on a BBC website in response to this article
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=5882&&edition=2&ttl=20070326044702
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Can UK and Iran resolve their difference?
Iran's detention of 15 Royal Navy personnel is "unjustified and wrong", Prime Minister Tony Blair has said.
Iran says they were trespassing in its waters, but speaking at an EU summit, Mr Blair denied this was the case.
At a Tehran meeting between Iranian government officials and the UK ambassador, Iran failed to say where the Britons were being held.
Is Iran trying to taunt the West? Or is it being unfairly treated? Send us your views and experiences.
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Published: Saturday, 24 March, 2007, 11:32 GMT 11:32 UK
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 22:05 GMT 23:05 UK
Will the U.K. now seize Irananian naval vesels patroling off Cardiff in the Bristol channel? The absurdity of the Western military presence in the 'Persian' Gulf heralds back to the days of White Man's Burden. The hyopocrisy of western outrage is comical. Exactly why is a British ship within a thousand miles of the Persian gulf?
Bill wontanabee, Canada
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 22:05 GMT 23:05 UK
Everyone is going on as if the UK/USA doesn't do this kind of thing all the time. What if the Iranian navy decided to 'almost' trespass into UK or US waters? Double standards.
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 22:02 GMT 23:02 UK
I would normally say this is clear cut - if the british navy say they were in Iraqi waters then I would take their word on it. But given the lies and war crimes f the Blair/Brown administration over recent times, one can no longer trust that they are telling the truth on anything. So where does that leave us?
[mango-], Cardiff, Wales
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 22:01 GMT 23:01 UK
To all those living in the UK, who don't seem to care about the lives of our servicemen and women, count yourselves lucky we do have people who volunteer to protect your miserable worthless existences, I say we should swap them for the likes of you. I spent 22 years in the Royal Navy and am disgusted by the lack of support our armed forces receive. Shame on the lot of you. Deportation is too good for you.
[adjl21], Portsmouth, United Kingdom
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 22:00 GMT 23:00 UK
This is an act of aggression towards the UK. We need to look at ensuring that the Iranians know that they cannot threaten /take hostages.
This is kidnapping.
Rory, Aberdeen
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Nope. This is international law. We crossed into their waters, they claim. They have very right to capture our marines.
If you can prove we were definitely NOT in their waters, then you have a point. Can you prove that then?
Tom Franklin, London, UK
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 21:59 GMT 22:59 UK
Britain hasn't been an empire for over a century yet we've been victorious in every major conflict we've been involved in since. We don't need to be an empire to defeat the likes of Iran and their despot leader. We will hopefully follow this up with the rooting out of the nihilistic, spineless, traitor, apologists amongst us who would rather see our soldiers at the mercy of foreign extremist powers than have the courage to make a stand.
RayA, Edmonton
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 21:59 GMT 22:59 UK
If British forces did stray into Iranian waters, Iran has every right to be upset by this and to arrest them. However, I believe Iran's actions are a result of the repeated hostility shown towards itself by the US and it's allies in the UN security council. If the 15 captives are to be released safely and calm is to be ensured, it's imperative the UN stops playing a hypocritical nuclear blame-game and starts making serious and fair talks with the Iranian people. To achieve peace you must use it.
R Vigoureux, England
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 21:59 GMT 22:59 UK
Have you heard our defence? We were "not in Iranian waters but Iraqi waters". What the hell are we doing in either. Go Iran!!! I'm sick of this country and the USA. Blair - develop backbone and stand up to America.
DL, london
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 20:23 GMT 21:23 UK
I believe Iran needs to look upon it's actions, and relect. As they wonder why the world is giving them a rough time over various issues?
Is Iran asking for war? actions like these are just going to provoke it eventually.
Phil, Cardiff
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 20:22 GMT 21:22 UK
"british Navy no longer a power" - Are you on glue? Aside from the American Navy, the British navy is the second most powerful navy on earth, so get your facts straight! Also, isn't illegally seizing military service personnel an act of war?
John, Holland
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 20:13 GMT 21:13 UK
The capture of 15 British sailors is the Iranian response to the UK / the US cat and mouse game against Iran. The UK / the US are testing Iranian response and determination in their preparation for strike against Iran.
The Iranian rapid response was to send a signal to Blair to stop illegally entering Iranian territorial waters on Arvandrud in the Persian Gulf.
Finally, it is the PERSIAN GULF and not ‘The Gulf’ or ‘Arabian Gulf'
Azar, Wheaton, IL , USA
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 20:12 GMT 21:12 UK
Would the Iranians have done this if Maggie was PM? Let's see if Tony develops some backbone.
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 20:11 GMT 21:11 UK
The captured men, along with all equipment etc, must be returned unharmed.
Also Iran must return the boats & equipment from the last incident.
Is the Iranian leader taunting us? Yes he is.
He's a bully - and that's what bullies do!
Quinbus Flestrin, Bradford, United Kingdom
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 20:11 GMT 21:11 UK
This is an act of aggression towards the UK. We need to look at ensuring that the Iranians know that they cannot threaten /take hostages.
This is kidnapping.
Rory, Aberdeen
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Added: Sunday, 25 March, 2007, 20:11 GMT 21:11 UK
I believe the Iranians are within their right to protect their borders specially since they are being picked on and threatened by the US.
Also it will not help the matter all this threats from British MPs.
Maz, london
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You know, the more I read stuff like what you posted the more I realize how blinded people can be. Chalk it up to prophecy. These are the End Times, ladies and gentlemen. Like my mom always says, "I can hear the archangel taking a deep breath, getting ready to blow that horn to call all saints home to heaven!"
1 Corinthians 15:51-53: "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."
One comment I did spot....
"To all those living in the UK, who don't seem to care about the lives of our servicemen and women, count yourselves lucky we do have people who volunteer to protect your miserable worthless existences, I say we should swap them for the likes of you. I spent 22 years in the Royal Navy and am disgusted by the lack of support our armed forces receive. Shame on the lot of you. Deportation is too good for you.
[adjl21], Portsmouth, United Kingdom"
Bang on, sir. This country (the UK) has gone to the dogs. It's nothing to do with immigration, it's the mealy mouthed indigenous population to blame for this indifference to an act of war. It's the one thing above all I respect you septics for - you stand up for your country and countrymen.
Salut!
I cannot believe the Brits don't come out more forceful on this. Maybe they are not up to the fight. It will be interesting what they do. Even the hapless Carter tried to free the hostages in Iran.
I would more more sea power over near the coast of Iran and give them about a month before I would start hitting the capital and killing the clerics and students. Who knows what is happening to that poor female sailor.
Haven't heard much from Ban and the U.N. Maybe his ears are still ringing from the mortar blast in Baghdad.
Maybe it's time for the Number One terrorist sponsoring nation in the world to be taken down? Before they have nukes?
I'll gladly pay 10 bucks a gallon to see them put out of business.
Level Tehran. Every building.
Pay me now, or pay me later...... lets get on with it.
Yeah, but the Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Taiwanese, and others in Asia may not want to.
They all get much larger percentages of their oil from the Middle East than does the U.S., and a lot of that is from Iran.
I've been wondering what their ransom demand would be.
This whole kidnapping has me really PO'ed. I'm having flash backs to when Iran kidnapped 200+ Americans and held them a year!
AMEN!!!
Yes, spies look like Valerie Plame/Joe Wilson, Sandy Berger and their buddies in the media and congress.
They don't look like Royal Navy Sailors and Marines in the uniform of the day doing their duties as commanded by their superior officers in international waters.
I'm glad you quoted what he said before he got his due voltage.
I think a few limpet mines on the hulls of some of their warships is forthcoming.
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