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Planet Earth banning common light bulbs
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | March 22, 2007

Posted on 03/22/2007 2:24:18 AM PDT by Man50D

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To: Dahoser
Sadly, yes. After all, we keep sending these clymers back there. It's time for term limits. It's the only way to limit the damage.

I admit I agree with your idea of term limits, but those *&^%$#@* would never relinquish their power over us "common folks". Congress is so corrupt and they couldn't afford to live under the laws they pass for us to abide by every day.

I also disagree with our tax dollars paying for their retirement and other perks. They should have to pay their way. The sheeple just love the dollars these clowns bring back into their districts.

41 posted on 03/22/2007 4:52:25 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Terrorists are using dim talking points over and over.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I have replaced virtually all of my light bulbs with compact Flours but I have a question, Why is my NYSEG bill going up and up and up and up and.......


42 posted on 03/22/2007 5:00:43 AM PDT by Shady
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To: Calpernia
Yeah, how would the leftists reproduce then? =D
43 posted on 03/22/2007 5:02:56 AM PDT by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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To: Jacquerie

Low flow toilets means you flush 3 or 4 times, after plunging of course.


44 posted on 03/22/2007 5:07:24 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Shady

I don't know why your bill is going up. We recently replaced many of our bulbs too, but haven't noticed any change in our bill - yet.


45 posted on 03/22/2007 5:07:57 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Terrorists are using dim talking points over and over.)
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To: kinoxi

Jut think what a better world it would be if we could just ban liberals.


46 posted on 03/22/2007 5:09:20 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Man50D

Lemmings.


47 posted on 03/22/2007 5:10:23 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Man50D
First of all, the article is a mish-mash of various proposals. Westchester County, for example, is tallking about banning incandescents from government buildings -- in which case good for them. As I takpayer, I'd like to see the government cutting its own energy costs.

But banning the sale of incandescents from one private party to another, even if you believe that the goal is worthy, is not only intrusive but unnecessary; The light quality of CFs keeps getting better, the price keeps going down, and they keep getting more and more popular, if the amount of space they occupy on store aisles is any indication.

The market can handle this fine, especially when LED lamps become more cost-effective. and I predict that in ten years, most of the incandescents sold will be for specialty use (like appliances) or places that want to be historically accurate.

I've gone mostly to CF -- the only incandescents left are the ones I don't use much, so the old bulbs haven't burned out yet, and the ones on dimmer switches. I'm not actively removing working incandescents, but I'm changing over by attrition. If you haven't looked at CF lately, look again -- the purplish tint of the early models is gone, and they have fourescents that are every bit as bright as incandescent floodlights, after the first 30 seconds to a minute.

Aside from consumers already havign an incentive to switching over, the power companies have an incentive to subsidize their use, at least in places that are near capacity. The more folks can cut usage, the longer they can go without building more generating capacity.

I don't get the advertized life span out of CF bulbs, but I don't get near the advertised life out of incandeascents, either -- I have dirty power, and need to get a whole-house line conditioner, among other wiring improvements.

48 posted on 03/22/2007 5:16:16 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Cronos
Fluorescent bulbs do not necessarily save any electricity or money. It depends entirely on how you use them and how you used your incandescents previously.

The reality is that people will run more lights longer if they are forced to use CFs everywhere to get around the warmup time. They also don't last as long as claimed and take 10-20 times the energy to produce as incandescent. I could go on for paragraphs about all of the misleading hype about CFs but the point is that they are fine for some applications but inappropriate for universal use.

49 posted on 03/22/2007 5:16:23 AM PDT by Ford4000
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To: R.W.Ratikal

The implicit carbon footprint would be intolerable.


50 posted on 03/22/2007 5:16:56 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Man50D
"Most of us go through the day in the dark.."

Quote from a dimbulb.

51 posted on 03/22/2007 5:18:45 AM PDT by Designer II
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To: Calpernia
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1678447/posts
Light Pollution (If you think it's a joke, think again. The movement seeks to change laws)
Campaign for Dark Skies (CfDS.org

Not only is it not a joke, but I happen to think it's a worthwhile goal. I hate having to drive 2-3 hours in any direction to see anything dimmer than Orion.

And they have ideas that would cut into light pollution without sacrificing safety or compromising comfort, usually at fairly low cost with savings in the long run. For example, put street lights closer to the ground, with reflective hoods on top of them; light that shines straight up in the air is wasted anyway, and more efficiently focusing light where it's needed means you can run at lower wattage and save money in the long term.

52 posted on 03/22/2007 5:27:20 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: Man50D

What a crock. I have bought florescents for various purposes, but sometimes incandescent works better. It should be a choice (particularly when you can get a 4 pack of GE soft whites for less than 99 cents, while the cheapest florescent bulbs go for $4 each.

And yes, there is energy cost savings... but it should still be a CHOICE.

I am so sick of big-brother government.


53 posted on 03/22/2007 5:29:46 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Man50D

More Corporate Welfare disguised in the form of new regulations.


54 posted on 03/22/2007 5:33:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: kanawa
How many leftists does take to change a light bulb?

They're too busy with their stupid candles to care.

55 posted on 03/22/2007 5:35:03 AM PDT by period end of story ("That's the kind of sugar poppa likes.")
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To: ReignOfError

Move to North Korea.


56 posted on 03/22/2007 5:37:26 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: endthematrix
The supposed savings for flourescent lights is illusory. The manufacturer's claim they last much much longer than regular bulbs. This is simply not true. I have used flourescent bulbs and compact fluorescent for years and they do not last "10 years" as the manufacturer's claim. They burn out regularly. They are also much more subject to vibration, which quickly destroys them. So applications like garage door opener lights where they get jiggled around a lot wear them out quickly. The $5 to $6 price tag, compared to pennies for an incandescent bulb, and the fact that they really do not last much longer, means this is a huge boondoggle for consumers.

In addition, anyone who has tried them know that the "equivalent light" ratings are total fantasy. A 100 watt incandescent clearly creates far more light than a "100 watt equivalent" fluorescent that only consumes 30 watts. Put two of them side by side and you'll see what I mean.

It looks great on paper but don't believe it.

57 posted on 03/22/2007 5:38:26 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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To: Cronos
-- the fluorescent bulbs save electricity and last longer. I don't see why incandescent bulbs should be allowed any more. We don't allow smoke belching factories in the hearts of our cities, nor smoke belching cars, so why not retrict these old bulbs?

Why not let the marketplace make that determination? Are we going to mandate that everyone upgrade their furnaces and A/Cs? If these bulbs are so superior to incandescent light bulbs in terms of cost savings and lumens, then most people will buy them.

58 posted on 03/22/2007 5:41:32 AM PDT by kabar
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To: drangundsturm

The incandescent bulb also emits heat.


59 posted on 03/22/2007 5:44:27 AM PDT by period end of story ("That's the kind of sugar poppa likes.")
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To: Man50D

Sounds like a market will develop for "PRE-BAN" lightbulbs.


60 posted on 03/22/2007 5:44:53 AM PDT by dman4384
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