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The Prius owners will just buy enough of carbon credits to make it all right. Problem solved.
I saw a bumper sticker on a Prius: "POLUTION IS ALSO A WMD".
Liberalism is a sickness and one of the main ingredients must be a sense of touchy-feely, good for nothing, "Look at me, I am superior to you because I make myself feel good". Or something to that effect. All emotion, no reality or common sense.
I am familiar with a LOT of hybrid owners. I have not met a single owner whose car isn't still on the road, except those who had their cars totaled in accidents.
The Toyota Prius will last hundreds of thousands of miles without replacing anything of value.
The Battery is warranted for 100,000 miles. Only ignorant people would suggest that the expected lifetime of a product is equal to it's warranty -- if that were the case, there'd be a lot of cars on the side of the road with 60,001 miles on them.
They also have the figures wrong on the amount of energy used to create the Prius, and the amount of pollution involved in initial construction of the battery packs.
Pluse, the batteries are nickel-metal hydride batteries, and are entirely recyclable.
Hate them if you like, but it's silly to make up stuff about them just to make yourself feel better (not the poster, the writer).
100,000 miles
vs.
300,000 miles
Nice accounting trick!
The study is a sham.
lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius
Note to idiot reporter:
300 vs. 100 is three times AS LONG, or two times LONGER.
Why does this same inaccurate piffle get posted day after day?
Hybrids are overhyped, sure. But this "comparison" isn't credible to anybody with an IQ over room temperature.
Some have questioned whether it really costs $325,000 per 100,000 miles. If it does who's paying it? That's a lot more than most people, even fairly wealthy people, pay for their houses in most places. Unless it's being subsidized by taxes it's hard to see how it can be true.
At $3.25 per mile it would cost $325,000 to drive a Prius 100,000 miles! Does the author of this article think we are fools?
TO further illustrate the absurdity of the "study". According to the study, after 100,000 miles, a total of $325,000 dollars worth of energy will have gone into the Prius.
The Prius gets around 40 mpg, so over 100,000 miles will use about 2500 gallons of gas, at $3 a gallon that is $7500 in gas.
Assume the entire cost of all replacement parts is "energy cost". In 100,000 miles, you will replace the tires twice, at 400 bucks a set, thats about $1000.
Let's assume the entire cost of scheduled maintenance is "energy cost". The 30,000 checkup is $400 bucks, that's another $1200.
Let's say you replace one major part during the 100,000 miles (I have over 100,000 on my two cars, and have replaced nothing of value yet on either of them). Let's say that's another $2000.
The original cost is $25,000. So the total cost to the owner over 100,000 miles is 25,000+1200+7500+1000+2000=$37,700 dollars. Round up to $40,000.
According to the article, the total cost of energy expended for that privilege of owning the prius for those 100,000 was $325,000. But if you only spent $40,000 total, that means that, in energy alone, someone has subsidized you for $285,000 worth of energy.
Do you believe Toyota will pay you $285,000 to own their car?
BTW, the Hummer cost is what, $85,000. It gets say 15 mpg, over 325,000 miles that is 20,000 gallons of gas, or about $60,000 in gas. Assume you replace the tires every 50,000 miles, at 500 a set, that's another $3000. I don't know what the maintenance is, but let's say it's $2000 per 100,000 miles, that's another $6000.
Total cost, completely guessed at: $150,000. Their listed cost? about $620,000.
I don't believe you are going to spend $620,000 on your Hummer over the life of the car, even if it DOES last 325,000 miles.
Interesting, considering the warranty on the drivetrain on the synergy drive of a Prius extends to 100,000 miles. I thought only GM products expired the mile after their warranty!
Was this study sponsored by the Detroit Auto Worker's Union?
The only actual point to hybrid vehicles is to move pollution out of heavily populated areas.
If we significantly shifted our electric generating capacity to rely more on nuclear, wind, solar, hydroelectric (yes, there is more potential using low-head hydro set ups), and geothermal (at least in Hawaii and the Pacific Northwest), and had plug-in hybrids, they could contribute to decreased use of petroleum (whether motivated by a patriotic desire to deprive Wahabbist Muslims of oil-revenues, or the dubious notion that human hydrocarbon use, rather than increased solar output, both radiative and magnetic, is driving warmer temperatures.)
Of course, we haven't shifted our electric generating capacity, thanks to the same pack of environmentalist wackos who are pushing hybrid cars--they killed our nuclear industry, and despite their calls for 'renewable energy' always block wind generation facilities on the plea that birds are too stupid or clumsy to avoid slowly rotating wind-turbines, and you can bet they'd hobble the installation of low-head hydro with pleas for some fish or other. And, I don't think any hybrid on the market has plug-in charging option (though I could be wrong on that).
"The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it. "
Having driven a hummer i would say it will never last 300,000. Maybe 100,000 if you baby it. After that it will be in the shop too much to make it worth keeping on the road. On the other hand, I could see a Prius easily lasting 300,000.
that's hysterical!
but you'd never convince a mind-numbed tv robot that it was true!
Hybrid cars are going to make absolutely horrible used cars; avoid them.