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Captain Cook Is Scuppered By Book
The Telegraph (UK) ^
| 3-20-2007
| Nick Squires
Posted on 03/20/2007 5:28:36 PM PDT by blam
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posted on
03/20/2007 5:28:40 PM PDT
by
blam
To: SunkenCiv; RightWhale
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posted on
03/20/2007 5:29:11 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Entirely believable. The Portuguese actually attempted to colonize Labarador in 1521.
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posted on
03/20/2007 5:35:19 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: blam
"The Portuguese were obsessed with secrecy because of their rivalry
with Spain," Mr Trickett said. "They didn't colonise Australia
because they didn't have the manpower or the resources, and then
their empire started to collapse."
IMHO, the Portuguese just didn't have the genius of the British.
Use hardened convicts to tame a tough land so that it could become
a fairly civilized country.
(I'm not knocking the Portugese...but in retrospect that could
be one version of what this history teaches us. Besides, the
Portugese were busy with Brazil and other far-flung outposts.)
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posted on
03/20/2007 5:37:29 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: blam
Early paperwork on exploration was often cryptic to protect finds. Another trick was to redefine the length of a mile (or other measure) in order to claim more land.
Sometimes charts and books were altered after the expedition. One account of a Spanish wreck on the US West Coast had the Spanish government declare all the charting & paper work from the voyage to be voided due to their suspicions.
To: blam
There is also speculation that the Portuguese also reached North America before Columbus' expedition that discovered America.
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posted on
03/20/2007 5:51:21 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: muawiyah
Entirely believable. The Portuguese actually attempted to colonize Labrador in 1521. I find it possible as well. The Portuguese were some world class navigators way early on. Only problem was they kept everything so secret that their accomplishments are not widely known and very difficult to prove.
Having said that Captain James Cook was second to no man, before or since, a Master Navigator an explorer who produced charts so accurate they were still being used in WWII.
Cook introduced new measures to fight the plague of all ancient long distance sailors, scurvy. He gave his men fruits including limes. This is how Jack Tar earned the moniker, "Limey".
Regards.
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posted on
03/20/2007 6:55:57 PM PDT
by
ARE SOLE
(Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.)
To: ARE SOLE
It'd been much better to eat seals. Their skin is very high in Vitamin C.
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posted on
03/20/2007 6:57:37 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: RobbyS
Either the Portuguese, or more likely Admiral He ~ and possibly even the Turks, or their prey, the Byzantium Empire.
Then there were the Japanese Zen Buddhists who discovered Arizona in the 1300s.
What I like about this story is that authenticates a very serious REDISCOVERY, and one involving hundreds of years between the first and second events.
Blam might be interested ~ I have a SECOND picture of a second Bird Stone in Brown County, Indiana. The other Bird Stones were found in Mongolia in the 1930s and have been dated to thousands of years ago.
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posted on
03/20/2007 7:02:33 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: blam; Victoria Delsoul
Captain Cook is scuppered by bookHey, hey, hey! Lets keep this discussion PG-13!!! It's still family hour out on the west coast!
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posted on
03/20/2007 7:03:53 PM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: muawiyah
It'd been much better to eat seals. Their skin is very high in Vitamin C. Really ... I know Cook was always on a constant search for the best source of Vitamin C. He made his crew eat cabbage for example. He did spend time in areas with a lot of seals. It would be surprising if they didn't use seals when available as a good source of fresh meat and inadvertently, an even more useful source of Vitamin C!
Regards.
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posted on
03/20/2007 7:08:14 PM PDT
by
ARE SOLE
(Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.)
To: muawiyah
"Blam might be interested ~ I have a SECOND picture of a second Bird Stone in Brown County, Indiana. The other Bird Stones were found in Mongolia in the 1930s and have been dated to thousands of years ago." Can you post pictures?
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posted on
03/20/2007 7:53:45 PM PDT
by
blam
To: muawiyah
The likehood is that since the ice age people from both Europe and Asia have reached America.
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posted on
03/20/2007 7:55:46 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: blam
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posted on
03/20/2007 8:33:05 PM PDT
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
To: RobbyS
"The likehood is that since the ice age people from both Europe and Asia have reached America." I expect before the end of the Ice Age. Probably as long or longer than 25,000 years ago.
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posted on
03/20/2007 8:48:17 PM PDT
by
blam
To: RobbyS
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posted on
03/20/2007 8:50:01 PM PDT
by
blam
To: muawiyah
It'd been much better to eat seals. Their skin is very high in Vitamin C.So how'd the seals get the vitamin C? Eating limes?
Regards.
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posted on
03/20/2007 9:08:24 PM PDT
by
ARE SOLE
(Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.)
To: blam
The Portuguese probably didn't set up a colony because they didn't find any gold. The Dutch found gold on New Guinea and made it part of the Dutch East Indies.
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posted on
03/20/2007 9:25:43 PM PDT
by
omnivore
To: blam
That's more like it. Both England and Portugal were deep in trade with North and South America respectively long before Columbus, and that is practically current events.
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posted on
03/21/2007 8:29:25 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Treaty rules;commerce droolz)
To: muawiyah
The Portugese were in Brazil 50 years before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Columbus may have reached Labrador in 1477, but in those days they didn't release any logs or maps to anybody
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posted on
03/21/2007 8:54:04 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Treaty rules;commerce droolz; Repeal the Treaty)
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