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Poll: Only 27 Percent of Iraqis Say Country Is in Civil War(life better now than under Saddam)
Fox News ^ | 3/18/2007 | Fownews

Posted on 03/18/2007 11:35:20 AM PDT by tobyhill

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1 posted on 03/18/2007 11:35:23 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

They must not watch CNN.


2 posted on 03/18/2007 11:36:47 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

It's funny that Iraqis who live there don't think they're in a civil war but our media is going to make them believe they are.


3 posted on 03/18/2007 11:39:30 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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Just proof that our media is at war with America.
I dont even watch networks anymore. Simply propaganda outlets for the DNC and terrorists.


4 posted on 03/18/2007 11:43:53 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: tobyhill

"Civil war" can mean many things, but clearly this is not a full-scale civil war such as we had here 150 years ago. It is basically a terrorist campaign led by a couple of thousand insurgents, with reprisals conducted by some militant groups on the other side. The general public is caught in the middle.


5 posted on 03/18/2007 11:44:52 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: tobyhill

Lies,Lies all Lies the drive by media knows the real truth.(not)


6 posted on 03/18/2007 11:48:07 AM PDT by bikerman (If guns cause crime then spoons cause Rosie to be fat and stupid.)
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To: tobyhill
And what did that 27% do under Saddam?

Rape room attendant? Torture Chamber staffer? Feed the political dissident feet 1st into the plastic shredder expert??

7 posted on 03/18/2007 11:50:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: tobyhill

from further down the article:

"Yet 49 percent of those questioned preferred life under Nouri al-Maliki, the prime minister, to living under Saddam."

I don't know what to make of this one, since 60(?)% of Iraq is shi'ite......does this mean that 1/6th of shi'ites preferred saddam to maliki? Or that the polling was skewed away from a proportional sampling according to the overall demographics?


8 posted on 03/18/2007 11:50:13 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Names Ash Housewares

All you say is true and even though it's a weary prospect, we will overcome this mess.

In spite of all the drivel and leftwing crapolla, the Hate America crowd is going nowhere.

Watch now as the pendulum swings in favor of Faith and Freedom everywhere.


9 posted on 03/18/2007 11:56:04 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: tobyhill
So what if it were in a civil war? Rwanda was in a civil war, and if we had intervened we could have maybe saved about a million lives. FWIW Clintoon knew about it and did nothing.
10 posted on 03/18/2007 12:01:05 PM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: tobyhill
Thanks for posting the good news!

ORB interviewed a nationally representative sample of 5,019 Iraqi adults between February 10-22. The margin of error was +/- 1.4 percent

I'd bet that even more Iraqis are happy this month.

11 posted on 03/18/2007 12:02:01 PM PDT by syriacus (Truman as president: Korean War; 30,000 US deaths; full wartime censorship; military draft)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Civil war" can mean many things>

Pretty arrogant don't you think to cling to your own opinion on Iraq in the face of the facts from the people who actually LIVE there?

Maybe, the Dincons might finally admit they have no clue what is actually going on in Iraq rather then try to parse and rationalize this data to validate their preconceived feelings about the mission in Iraq?

12 posted on 03/18/2007 12:12:12 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

The original survey article is worth a look if you are curious:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1530526.ece

The good news is that it demonstrates the emergence of politics over tribalism. Malikis approval had been around 29% and has moved up to around 50% because of increased security.

Understand that we are trying to emerge from American mythology that Iraqis only think in relation to their ethnic orientation. That is certainly significant but we must hope and strive for politically oriented decisionmaking.



13 posted on 03/18/2007 12:13:07 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: MNJohnnie

"Rape room attendant". Har!


14 posted on 03/18/2007 12:14:15 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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Yet 49 percent of those questioned preferred life under Nouri al-Maliki, the prime minister, to living under Saddam. Only 26 percent said things had been better in Saddam's era, while 16 percent said the two leaders were as bad as each other and the rest did not know or refused to answer

And what did that 26% DO in Saddam regime?

15 posted on 03/18/2007 12:15:12 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: CBart95

I do agree. The left has just made the job of our troops so much harder. I wonder sometimes how many more dead there are because these jerks give the enemy hope they will eventually wear down our will.


16 posted on 03/18/2007 12:18:50 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: SandRat

You might find this intresting


17 posted on 03/18/2007 12:23:47 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"Civil war" can mean many things, but clearly this is not a full-scale civil war such as we had here 150 years ago. It is basically a terrorist campaign led by a couple of thousand insurgents, with reprisals conducted by some militant groups on the other side. The general public is caught in the middle.

I don't believe the general public is "caught in the middle". Instead, the general public is the target.

18 posted on 03/18/2007 12:37:47 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: lonestar67

you're not trying to make me believe that the Iraq matter as we see it is Iraqi sunni vs shia tensions, are you?

I view Iraq (and Afghan) as a beach-head in the middle of the wider territory of the muslim jihaddi's. Their sunni or shia clubs are of no consequence in terms of their jihad against the West, beyond temporary/fleeting periods of being the friend against a common enemy.


19 posted on 03/18/2007 12:51:40 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I agree with you.

I think that Iraq is a relatively secular portion of that beachhead that we can more easily convert out of trenchant Islamism.


20 posted on 03/18/2007 4:39:33 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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