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Uproar Hits Fla. Confederate Flag Show
AJC ^ | March 17, 2007 | STEPHEN MAJORS

Posted on 03/17/2007 4:30:38 PM PDT by groanup

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — When artist John Sims sees the Confederate flag, he sees "visual terrorism," and a symbol of a racist past. When Robert Hurst sees the flag, he is filled with pride as the descendant of a soldier who fought for the South during the Civil War.

Their differences have flared into a war of words, catching a local museum in the middle.

An art exhibit by artist John Sims, entitled 'The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag,' is show on display at the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science, Friday, March 16, 2007, in Tallahassee, Fla. The exhibit has sparked controversy with the local chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and they have asked the museum to remove it.

Hurst walked into the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science this past week and saw an exhibit by Sims, including a Confederate flag hung from a noose on a 13-foot gallows in a display titled "The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag."

Hurst asked the museum to remove the display, along with 13 other pieces by Sims.

The museum, however, announced Friday it is standing by Sims' work, on display since Feb. 26, because it wants to inspire dialogue in the community about a symbol that engenders a diversity of strong responses.

"There's a balance between the nature of the art that we show and the outcome that we seek, which is to promote dialogue and conversation, and have you maybe think of something in a slightly different way," said Chucha Barber, the museum's executive director.

Hurst, commander of the local Sons of Confederate Veterans chapter, said Friday he has lost respect for the museum, calling the display of Sims' work "offensive, objectionable and tasteless."

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To: Non-Sequitur
Oh gosh! You out voted me. Reality has been changed by one vote.

Oh Puhleeze yourownself.

The grim reality was that the South was treated like any raw materials producing area is treated by an industrialized area that can control trade there.

Tarrifs on imported goods effectively taxed anything the South could trade to Europe: timber, turpentine, molasses, tobacco, and cotton, etc., because they taxed the goods received in trade, at a level which ensured the North's industry could set prices well below what Europeans were willing to pay for the same materials. Calhoun was complaining about this in the 1830's, as well as the proposals to build railroad bridges so low and so far south on the Mississippi as to stop meaningful cargo traffic on the river, leaving all but sea transportation in Northern hands as well.

I suppose you could pretend the tarrifs were not an issue, but they definitely were.

Threats to abolish slavery were the final straw, simply because there was no way to produce the crops without the labor. It was a threatened economic sanction.

Had it been the seminal issue and not just the last straw, the slaves would have been freed by law long before the Southern states could secceede. Where was the vote on manumission?

Lincoln finally decreed Southern slaves to be free in 1863 when the war was going badly, hoping for an uprising to cripple the Southern war effort, but not until.

So much for the grand morality play.

61 posted on 03/18/2007 7:21:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: trumandogz

Glad you like it


62 posted on 03/18/2007 7:21:24 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: MamaTexan
I believe they are called "brats" MamaTexan. ;-)
63 posted on 03/18/2007 7:26:54 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dems and RINOs: Too stupid 2 lead, too vain 2 follow, too egotistical 2 get the hell out of the way!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

That was not my quote, read the thread.


64 posted on 03/18/2007 7:30:16 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

That was not my quote, read the thread. ............ The thread was read it, was just an addition to your answer.


65 posted on 03/18/2007 7:33:20 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Smokin' Joe
In other words: The north was doing to the south,exactly what the King of England had done to the colonies.
66 posted on 03/18/2007 7:35:14 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dems and RINOs: Too stupid 2 lead, too vain 2 follow, too egotistical 2 get the hell out of the way!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Funny how that worked, isn't it?

I also find it somewhat ironic that the same virtuous North went on under the guise of 'Manifest Destiny' to sieze millions of acres from the indigenous residents at the point of a gun, herd them into the least desireable tracts of land, take their children away and send them to boarding schools where they were not allowed to speak their own language, etc., etc, ad infinitum.

But that is another chapter, and two wrongs do not make a right.

The destruction of the entire history of the foe is their final defeat. The winners write the books.

67 posted on 03/18/2007 7:47:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: since 1854
are you REALLY ignorant enough of history to believe that STUPID, revisionist, BILGE???

free dixie,sw

68 posted on 03/18/2007 9:00:54 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: tkathy; All
face it, DUMMY, if anybody is "pounding another nail" it's ignorant, arrogant, DY FOOLS & anti-dixie BIGOTS like YOU.

our flags/memorials/uniforms/etc. are IN dixie to STAY.

if you don't love dixie & her sacred battleflags, LEAVE & don't let the door hit you on the way out.

free dixie,sw

69 posted on 03/18/2007 9:07:44 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
NOPE. it's just STUPID, IGNORANT & HATE-FILLED bigotry on the "artist's" part.

free dixie,sw

70 posted on 03/18/2007 9:10:15 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: trumandogz
more likely, the museum will suffer a LARGE & long-lasting LOSS of donations.

STUPIDITY (on the part of the museum staff)has CONSEQUENCES.

free dixie,sw

71 posted on 03/18/2007 9:12:45 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: gondramB
actually the courts came pretty close, in that the flag BURNED was the PRIVATE PROPERTY of a person, who sued to get his money back.

the trial court said that he did NOT have "standing" to force reimbursement for his loss.

burning a flag is NOT protected speech. it is a CRIME.

free dixie,sw

72 posted on 03/18/2007 9:16:37 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: ReignOfError
actually you are WRONG.

the MAIN flag abused by the KKK-idiots is the flag of the USA (and who,of course, misuse the CROSS of JESUS, the ETERNAL CHRIST).

at the last HUGE gathering of the klan in DC there was not (THANKFULLY!!!) a single CSA flag, but over TEN THOUSAND flags of the USA.

would you describe either the US FLAG and/or THE CROSS as racist & offensive???

free dixie,sw

74 posted on 03/18/2007 9:26:43 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: trumandogz
Four years is not that long of a time, unless you were a slave in the Confederacy.

Or a slave in the northeast for that matter. Some were slaves under the US flag their entire lives.

75 posted on 03/18/2007 10:22:17 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: groanup

Just more race-baiter porn for the fartsy part of the artsy.


76 posted on 03/18/2007 11:48:34 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Sandy Berger/Richard Armitage '08 - the "Press-Free" Invisible Man Ticket)
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To: since 1854
All Confederates were Democrats.

Union General MacCellan ran against Lincoln as a Democrat.

77 posted on 03/18/2007 11:53:06 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Appalachian by the grace of God!)
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To: Hacksaw

I did not say that all Democrats were Confederates. Cheers,


78 posted on 03/18/2007 12:05:06 PM PDT by since 1854 (http://grandoldpartisan.typepad.com)
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To: ReignOfError

Republican Reconstruction did not even begin until March 1867, nearly two years after the Civil War ended. Fault for that lies at the feet of the Democrat President, Andrew Johnson. Cheers,


79 posted on 03/18/2007 12:08:10 PM PDT by since 1854 (http://grandoldpartisan.typepad.com)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
In other words: The north was doing to the south,exactly what the King of England had done to the colonies.

That would be true only if the colonies not only had representation in Parliament but had disproportionate representation and had, in fact, run the place for most of the preceeding 80 years.

80 posted on 03/18/2007 1:37:47 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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