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Report: More than 20,000 CSU freshmen lack math, English skills
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| 3/13/07
| Lisa Krieger
Posted on 03/13/2007 8:13:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: grey_whiskers
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posted on
03/13/2007 8:17:16 PM PDT
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: NormsRevenge
California has an extensive JC system, if they are not ready for a four year college, let them go there.
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posted on
03/13/2007 8:19:56 PM PDT
by
Michael.SF.
(In this (political) War, Republicans are gutless appeasers. -- Ann Coulter)
To: NormsRevenge
No idea abot CA demographics and families but as a general rule the more broken up the family (kid lives with senile Grandman) the worse the said kid does in school.
To: NormsRevenge
Time to throw the NEA out of the public schools.
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posted on
03/13/2007 8:20:48 PM PDT
by
popdonnelly
([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
To: Michael.SF.
"California has an extensive JC system, if they are not ready for a four year college, let them go there."
That's what I was thinking.
Also, those who attend junior colleges and transfer tend to fare better than those who attend four-year institutions the whole time.
Reason for this is JC students tend to be there for one reason- to get their degree. Four-year kids aren't nearly as focused.
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posted on
03/13/2007 8:25:22 PM PDT
by
YoungAmerican84
(Honorary member of the World Zionist Conspiracy)
To: NormsRevenge
How much money has the state already invested in those freshmen before they even start? $100,000, $120,000? How much of that came from the Federal teat? And if they were deficient, why were they admitted?
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posted on
03/13/2007 8:28:42 PM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
(Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh, yeah...this proves California needs to spend those add'l billions (another thread) on improving its system....NOT.
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posted on
03/13/2007 8:31:51 PM PDT
by
goodnesswins
(We need to cure Academentia)
To: popdonnelly
>>>
Time to throw the NEA out of the public schools.<<< There was an article in the June 1993 Forbes that detailed how corrupt and close to a Democrat PAC the NEA had become.
I still have it around here....somewhere. It convinced me you are right....in 1993!! It's onlu gotten worse.
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posted on
03/13/2007 8:43:28 PM PDT
by
HardStarboard
(The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
To: NotchJohnson
Sadly, "broken up" families are beginning to be the norm and not unusual.
To: NormsRevenge
Poor language skills are shaped more by those enamored by pop culture and not by inability of teachers to teach standard English. Schooling is a waste of time until one is ready to speak to be understood. Many kids will insert $hit, phuck, and the like for half their daily word use. They think they can detect 500 nuanced meanings for each of these words.
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posted on
03/13/2007 8:54:35 PM PDT
by
LoneRangerMassachusetts
(The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
To: YoungAmerican84
I did JC before going to a four year school, and there are a lot of reasons to do it. Nobody cares where you spent your first two years, it's where you graduate. Second, it costs about a quarter what a four year school costs, and the student can generally live at home. Third, it creates an excellent bridge to a four year college. Most freshmen are not mature enough to deal with the temptations of a four year school. I watched a lot of freshmen come in, and there was a huge tendency to party hard in the first semester, and be on scholastic probation the second semester.
Most of the students I work with are plenty intelligent, but they've never learned how to study. I spend probably the first three weeks of class teaching them how to study. By the second half of the class, I can give them an assignment that includes memorizing a full page chart and expect an average of 93 or so.
They can also handle a 300 question test. They're motivated and they want challenges. There's nothing more rewarding than watching a class go from hating to study and do tests to having over half of them voluntarily show up for an optional 2 hour study session. Great feeling, almost as great as walking into a fire station and knowing I've trained over half the people there.
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posted on
03/13/2007 8:55:06 PM PDT
by
Richard Kimball
(Why yes, I do have a stupid picture for any occasion)
To: NormsRevenge
I'll be that they can quote the hell out of "Earth in the Balance" and "An Inconvenient Truth" though. And I'm sure that liberal smatterings of the phrases "military-industrial-complex" and "opressive Bush regime" are enough to score them a degree.
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posted on
03/13/2007 9:01:25 PM PDT
by
Washi
(Support the country you live in, or go live in the country you support.)
To: NormsRevenge
Would these be all the illegal aliens California allows to attend its schools?
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posted on
03/13/2007 9:02:26 PM PDT
by
hedgetrimmer
(I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
To: NormsRevenge
Get rid of the teachers' unions that protect the incompetents that teach.
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posted on
03/13/2007 9:03:38 PM PDT
by
eleni121
( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
To: Michael.SF.
At our county community college, outside DC, about 25% of the students have to take remedial math and English. It's not that these students aren't ready for college. It's that they really weren't ready to graduate from high school. The 60% of the students who do graduate have 7th grade math and 9th grade reading skills. Having these guys go to a JC doesn't solve any problem, but it is cheaper to patch them up at our CC than a more expensive 4-year school.
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posted on
03/13/2007 9:37:15 PM PDT
by
VanShuyten
("By the simple exercise of our will, we can exert a power for good practically unbounded, etc, etc.")
To: NormsRevenge
Well there's a shocking development, considering that a majority of these neglected souls couldn't identify the Pacific Ocean on a globe.
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posted on
03/13/2007 9:41:44 PM PDT
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
(Veritas. Gravitas. Ohmygas.)
To: NormsRevenge
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posted on
03/13/2007 9:52:58 PM PDT
by
Chewbacca
(I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
To: popdonnelly
"Time to throw the NEA out of the public schools."
Time to throw low-achievers out of universities. How was it put? "Do not cast pearls unto swine"?
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posted on
03/13/2007 9:55:39 PM PDT
by
GSlob
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