Posted on 03/11/2007 11:50:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
Compulsory schooling isn't about learning. It never has been.
I support homeschooling. Bigetime. But does anyone other than me, think this is a little over the top?
Educational law reduces to one question: Who has the primary responsibility for educating children, parents or the government?
The entire debate hinges on the answer.
He wouldn't read them. I sent him a technical article on computer modeling which explained how designing accurate climate models is essentially not possible. Got a nasty one liner back in all caps. Which is a reliable indicator that I have struck a nerve. The "truth" nerve, the one that really hurts.
Great point. The only place where I was in danger as a child was in school. I got in one fight in my neighborhood (which I could have chosen to avoid), as opposed to several in school (which I couldn't). I was also mugged in the jr. high bathroom. The threat of violence always loomed. And I was a pretty "mainstream" kid. Lot's of kids had it far worse.
Hehehehe.
And why do public school teachers send their kids to private schools, at twice the rate of the rest of the population? So many mysteries.
Guilty until proven innocent?
In this case, the child cannot be forced to take a test by the school system. That is the law. You say you are concerned with abuse, but evidently judicial abuse doesn't bother you.
Oh, and have you done anything about those barely literate Bears?
Sure it was. In the "Old Deluder Satan Law," officially called the Massachusetts Education Law of 1647 established a compulsory education system (every town with 50 families had to hire a teacher; those few towns wit 100 families had to establish a "grammar school" to prepare students to go to Harvard.)
To be sure, the American educational system was influenced by the Prussians - just as our military was. (Clauswitz's On War redefined our military in the 19th century.) Even so, Prussian excesses do not discredit complusary education any more than the Eisenhower Interstate System is discredited by Hitler's autobahn.
The epiphany-of-the-month for me has been, "no one is as dogmatic as a 'free-thinker.'"
I see you've never dealt with a school system as a homeschool parent when the system has the power to force such metrics. In your point of view, the parent must prove to the school that "all is well". Just how does a failed and failing school system warrant such authority?
Perhaps the school should justify to each parent how they are achieving their stated and real aims with the kids. You know - the stated aim of educating (by on large, done poorly) and the real aim of indoctrination (by on large, done exceedingly well).
Yes, let's round up all the HS'd and sew little HS stars on their shirts.
FWIW-
The reductio ad Hitlerum logicla fallacy strikes again.
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Doesn't anyone who supports mandatory testing have a problem with the power it gives the failing public school system over its chief rivals? It'd be like if McDonalds was chosen by the government to certify all other fast food restaurants. And if McDonalds was government run and subsidized and only had two menu choices, both of which were inedible. But we'd better be sure the people over at Burger King are getting healthy food!
What about letting the free market decide whether homeschools or public schools are producing a better product, and keep the government out?
THEE: "and in light of the minimal intrusion into the parent's privacy."
ME: I hope you are making a joke. Given the large, and growing number of cases of AgencyAbusers acting out, all across America, you must be jesting.
The educational establishment worked overtime to ridicule homeschoolers. Now that homeschooled childre CONSISTENTLY outperform all public school students, teaching establishment seeks to regulated them to death.
It seems this black robed judge is afraid some home school student will grow up to find a awy to eliminate the black robed elitists.
Instead of condemning them, the "poobek skuelz" should seek to immitate them.
If your friend is addicted to snappy one liners, tell him that one of the top climate models (METS model) predicted that in the summer, Ireland and the Central Sahara have the same rainfall.
Betcha that makes him like one liners a tad less. ;-)
Does anyone have a comparison of sat scores of home schoolers vs private schools vs public schools?
I bet the first two have more college grads and above.
Well, I grew up in Pennsylvania, and the routine trouncing that our test scores gave the public schoolers didn't stop the law from requiring tests in 3rd, 5th, and 8th grades.
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