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To: kabar
First, your stats don't jive with what I have read elsewhere, notably "The West's Last Chance," "The Cube and the Cathedral," and an article by Steyn. Second, are you a statistician? The fact that everyone born in this country is a citizen has nothing to do with how many born here are born of US citizens. In other words, you are interpreting the data but there is more than one way of interpreting it.


"And you would be wrong."

I've been polite with you kabar. Don't you know how to communicate without being offensive?

The fact of the matter is, despite the stats you quote, we don't have a firm grasp on the exact number of people in this country legally and illegally or what the repopulation rate (of rooted Americans) is. All I was saying is that we're slightly better than Europe, but we're still just squeaking by. We're making the same point. You're arguing over shades of gray.
124 posted on 03/10/2007 11:43:46 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
First, your stats don't jive with what I have read elsewhere, notably "The West's Last Chance," "The Cube and the Cathedral," and an article by Steyn. Second, are you a statistician? The fact that everyone born in this country is a citizen has nothing to do with how many born here are born of US citizens. In other words, you are interpreting the data but there is more than one way of interpreting it.

My stats come from the Bureau of the Census. What specifically doesn't jibe? I am not interpreting the data, just giving you the basis for it, i.e., the methodology the Census Bureau uses to record population increases. What interpretation of data are you disputing?

I am not a statistician but I have taken statistic courses in graduate school. However, you don't need to be a statistician to comprehend these data.

The fact of the matter is, despite the stats you quote, we don't have a firm grasp on the exact number of people in this country legally and illegally or what the repopulation rate (of rooted Americans) is. All I was saying is that we're slightly better than Europe, but we're still just squeaking by. We're making the same point. You're arguing over shades of gray.

If anything the numbers are understated since illegals don't comply with the census takers. I gather from your comments that you would like to see even larger population increases since we are only "squeaking by." Our current population growth amounts to .91 percent per year. That ranks us among the highest in the industrialized world. We have added 20 million people since 2000, which is the equivalent of adding the current total of our seven largest cities.

We are not making the same point. As a matter of public policy, we need to not only stop the flow of illegal aliens, we need to change our existing legal immigration policies. The 1965 immigration laws increased our annual intake of legal immigrants from 178,000 a year to more than a million. Those numbers will be increased if the Senate comprehensive immigration reform bill is passed. And you must add 500,000 to 1 million illegal aliens entering our country each year. Hence, you have 1.5 to 2 million people adding to the population in addition to the birth rates. The data are clear that by 2030 we will have a population of over 360 million if the status quo remains.

I don't understand your comment about the "repopulation rate (of rooted Americans)." What is your point?

125 posted on 03/10/2007 12:36:10 PM PST by kabar
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