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To: umgud

To establish that the 2nd amendment means an individual right
instead of a collective one is the big point. I am delighted the court gets it.


605 posted on 03/09/2007 4:03:53 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Exactly. And once you've established that it is an individual right against the federal government (not collective), then saying that it also applies to the states (via incorportation) just like the other amendments in the BoR is the natural course. This is an important first step. Let's hope the SCOTUS affirms.


606 posted on 03/09/2007 4:07:09 PM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Always resist the temptation to define the Second Amendment in an "either - or" type of argument. {individual vs. collective right}

Think about it.
The Founding Fathers realized the need for the individual AND the collective right to ensure we would be able to check a tyrannical government.

What good is a collective right if the individual can be deprived of arms?

What good is an individual right if a group of such can be labeled "terrorists" or "hate groups" and oppressed accordingly?

618 posted on 03/09/2007 4:31:02 PM PST by labette (There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.)
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