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To: MACVSOG68
Those who are most passionate about an issue are the least bit willing to look at evidence to the contrary.

I will look at it when you present some. I've asked you to do so multiple times, in fact, but you haven't.

I simply want the extremist agenda out of the political process.

Ah, so you want those whose 'agenda' you view as 'extreme' to sit down, shut up, and vote the way you want them to rather than as their conscience dictates. That's a rather extreme agenda you have there.

So the election results last year didn't convince you that abortion, stem cell research, prayer in schools, creationism/evolution, Ten Commandments, gay marriage, and Terri Schiavo legislation are not the issues of importance facing America today, nor on Americans' radar screen?

Based on the last election, which issues do you believe are "of America" and are what you would consider to be conservative? Do you believe those election results showed that all Americans are of the same mind? Be very careful how you answer these two questions. Giving the wrong response will blow your efforts to marginalize social conservatism out of the water.

I am always concerned over the enemies of freedom

Ah, so you classify as enemies of freedom those who believe in protecting the right to life. You obviously have some real issues with the Declaration of Independence then.

You really do try to do the doublespeak thing, but the fallacies of your arguments are just too obvious.

164 posted on 03/14/2007 3:18:25 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
Ah, so you want those whose 'agenda' you view as 'extreme' to sit down, shut up, and vote the way you want them to rather than as their conscience dictates. That's a rather extreme agenda you have there.

No, not at all. Vote however you want, and however your conscience dictates. What I want, is what most of America wants, and that is a slate of candidates who look to the real issues facing this Country, and not an agenda filled with personal religious/moral issues. Hopefully, you can see the difference.

And yes, my agenda is pretty extreme: Continuing the war on terror; leaving Iraq after completion of the mission; supporting the Constitution and the 3 branches of government it created; supporting a republican form of government; supporting the rights of all Americans, not just the Christian ones; balancing a budget, reducing the size of government, and holding government officials responsible for corruption and sleaze, working with both sides of the aisle to reform taxes, social security, immigration, energy, and crime.

I suppose what makes that such an extremist agenda in your eyes is my refusal to include the social right's agenda of abortion, stem-cells, gay marriage, prayer in school, evolution/creationism, Ten Commandments, medical marijuana, right to die laws, and the rest of the far right platform. But you hang on to that thought, because 90% of America is extremist under your definition, while the radical right and radical left apparently represent the norm.

Based on the last election, which issues do you believe are "of America" and are what you would consider to be conservative? Do you believe those election results showed that all Americans are of the same mind?

Based on the last election, as I said earlier, the Republicans decided that they had enough of leadership in Congress because none of the issues I listed above were done in the 109th. You add it up.

Be very careful how you answer these two questions. Giving the wrong response will blow your efforts to marginalize social conservatism out of the water.

Well, I can't speak for every American, but I can point you to polls that clearly show the Republican Party of the 109th was completely out of step with most Americans. And I needn't marginalize the social right. It is already there, and made it with no help from me. If enough people like me continue to shine the light on them, and disclaim them as conservatives, in the end, the Party of Lincoln will win out. But I guess we'll see in 2008.

Ah, so you classify as enemies of freedom those who believe in protecting the right to life. You obviously have some real issues with the Declaration of Independence then.

Not sure why you believe the Declaration of Independence has anything to do with the issues of today? And not to pop your bubble, but in 1776, abortion was not considered the taking of human life by the Church, at least in the first trimester, so I doubt Jefferson's call for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness had a lot to do with abortion...at least in his mind. And for the second or third time, abortion is not a presidential issue, and will ultimately be resolved by a USSC, one of the institutions that I support, and which the social right obviously does not.

You really do try to do the doublespeak thing, but the fallacies of your arguments are just too obvious.

You're not terribly gifted in this debate thingy...are you? One reason why extremists who depend only on emotion and what they are told by others of their thinking, is that they don't hold up well under debate conditions. Doesn't matter if they come from the left or right. Generally, their whole philosophy is a house of cards, and when they can't respond to logic or reason, they usually just go to the personal attack. You ever notice that?

165 posted on 03/14/2007 4:38:58 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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