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Healthy Baby Born After Prenatal Screening Falsely Showed he "Died"
LifeSiteNews ^ | 3/7/07 | Gudrun Schultz

Posted on 03/07/2007 4:30:14 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee; 4lifeandliberty; abigail2; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

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21 posted on 03/07/2007 5:15:41 PM PST by cgk (I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t. - Ann Coulter)
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To: wagglebee
I don't find documentation of people who set out to kill babies. Saying it a different way, I find no evidence of a malicious intent with it's main motive to be infanticide.
22 posted on 03/07/2007 5:18:35 PM PST by dwhole2th (''God gets you to the plate, but once you're there, you're on your own". Ted Williams)
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To: dwhole2th; wagglebee
Can you document that?

Why does he have to prove a statement with the words "I think" in it? Pretty obvious to me he's stating an opinion.

23 posted on 03/07/2007 5:18:41 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Logic" is as meaningless to a liberal as "desert" is to a fish.--Freeper IronJack)
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To: dwhole2th; wagglebee
Do really believe that these people WANT to kill babies? I mean, do you think they go looking for ways to kill babies?



I read an article a few years ago (about the UK) about a push to abort babies for Cleft Pallets, Hare Lips and the economic situation of the mother.

Not everyone in the UK is for infanticide. The groups who are have no shame.
24 posted on 03/07/2007 5:19:06 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: wagglebee
His mother, Julie Brown, 29, said "The thought of them trying to get rid of a perfectly healthy baby makes me sick to the pit of my stomach, but I've got to move forward now."

That appears to be pretty clear about what this mother believes the intent was by the doctors.

25 posted on 03/07/2007 5:19:20 PM PST by cgk (I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t. - Ann Coulter)
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By running these two concepts together in one sentence, they are trying to readers to believe that 40 percent of the abortions done based on Downs Syndrome diagnosess are actually on non-Down Syndrome babies.

We were told with our first child after the "first screening" that the baby might have Down's. Genetic counseling at a specific hospital was recommended. We decided to have the counseling at a hosptial closer to our home. When I told the doctor I wanted to have it at the other hospital her response was "Why? They won't do abortions after the 26th week there?". Needless to say we kept the appt. with the second hospital that had no financial ties to or reason to promote abortion period. Further, our child was born perfectly healthy. I still shudder at the thought mothers might have actually aborted a healthy child due to these biased situations. Of course, I'm against abortion period..not just the healthy child.

A couple of years later I miscarried a baby about the same age as the one in this article. While waiting for the D&C I actually, thankfully, had a natural miscarriage so I will never have a doubt about whether or not there was a possibility of things being a mistake.

26 posted on 03/07/2007 5:20:01 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: cgk
Celebrate Life.

I am with ya.

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27 posted on 03/07/2007 5:20:14 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware

Oh WOW how ADORABLE & PRECIOUS! :)


28 posted on 03/07/2007 5:23:04 PM PST by cgk (I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t. - Ann Coulter)
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To: TXBubba; cgk

Unfortunately some (even some who claim to be conservatives), will probably find reasons to disbelieve your experiences.


29 posted on 03/07/2007 5:25:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: TXBubba; wagglebee

Thank you for sharing that. wagglebee is correct - there will always be those who think your experience is an uncommon one.

My experience, times 2, wasn't as involved as yours. When pregnant with my 4 yr old, I was advised to get the prenatal screenings for multiple reasons, foremost being to check the baby's health.

I still remember this: I was at UCLA. Their own pamphlets talk about false positives and how more testing was possible upon request. Request! I refused them and was made to sign triplicate forms over & over. And also continuously asked why I had refused them.

This time around (baby's due next month), I refused all screenings up front and told them why. "No matter what you say, I won't terminate." The nurse's reaction? "Good for you."

I continued and told them I WILL take the tests, however, if they are ALSO needed to prepare doctors for a baby that may need special care upon birth.

I was told it wasn't necessary, and no prenatal testing was done. Guess they aren't so important after all.


30 posted on 03/07/2007 5:40:55 PM PST by cgk (I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t. - Ann Coulter)
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To: wagglebee

That is their problem not mine. It was at that point though that I quit believing the medical community was all knowing and frankly trustworthy. As my hubby points out "it is the Practice of medicine" and "mortuary Science". I have no qualms about getting 2nd (or 3rd) opinions if needed.


31 posted on 03/07/2007 5:41:01 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: cgk

Now that you mention it I do think we had to verify we had the counseling. Which frankly I didn't understand. Because they couldn't say anything more than "you might want to have more tests, which, of course btw, have this much chance of miscarriage associated with them." Since we would not have aborted even if the tests proved beyond a doubt we declined them.


32 posted on 03/07/2007 5:46:38 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I was responding to a statement that did not include the words I think. It was presented as a fact!


33 posted on 03/07/2007 5:49:48 PM PST by dwhole2th (''God gets you to the plate, but once you're there, you're on your own". Ted Williams)
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To: cgk

Congratulations about your baby!


34 posted on 03/07/2007 5:55:39 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: cgk

Were you told that your unborn baby had no heartbeat? I can't imagine that is a very common misdiagnosis.


35 posted on 03/07/2007 6:07:25 PM PST by TBall
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To: wagglebee

This wasn't an abortionist.

Regardless, doesn't something seem not right about this article. They take the baby from the woman, and then 3 weeks later she finds out that the kid is alive! Doesn't add up.


36 posted on 03/07/2007 6:08:36 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Fight Communism, Socialism! Fight the Democrats! Stand up for Freedom!)
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To: TXBubba; wagglebee; cgk

Some of you have probably seen these--Actually you posted the second one, wagglebee:

Here's a recent case--one that went in for an abortion:

Mum Gives Birth.......After Abortion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1787141/posts
February 17, 2007

and here's the more famous one that sued because one of the twins got away:

Woman Sues For Wrongful Birth of Surviving Twin After Failed Abortion
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600598/posts
March 21, 2006


37 posted on 03/07/2007 6:19:00 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: TBall
Were you told that your unborn baby had no heartbeat?

No, because I had refused both tests both times.

38 posted on 03/07/2007 6:25:07 PM PST by cgk (I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t. - Ann Coulter)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Yeah, I was slightly confused...How do you NOT know you have a baby in your womb? Err...Isn't it kind of...obvious?
And...how do you NOT know he's alive? *confused*

This article just proves that Medical Science isn't all it's cracked up to be.


39 posted on 03/07/2007 6:25:30 PM PST by GlasstotheArson (Fire can make a conscience clean.)
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To: cgk

IF a mother-to-be doesn't believe in abortion,then WHY all these pre-natal tests ?
to prepare for what massive difference ?


40 posted on 03/07/2007 6:26:03 PM PST by catroina54 (they blasphemed when the stated that Jesus was a migrant too.)
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