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To: dmw

See, if I'm a RINO, then so is President Bush, and if you think he's one, then I'd say I'm in good company. I'd also say my conservatism is certainly *something* like Jim Robinson's. I mean, I do agree with him most of the time. But isn't it great to have a forum where all kinds of different perspectives can be presented and discussed!

Couple examples: What was the "conservative" position on Elian Gonzales? What was the "conservative" position on the Dubai ports deal? What's the "conservative" position on Taiwan independence?

In each case we have spirited disagreement among "conservatives" as to what the most appropriate policy ought to be. And we've all been welcome for going on 8 years.


399 posted on 03/05/2007 4:13:22 AM PST by zook
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To: zook
Hey zook, thanks for your post. Guess we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. If you are comfortable with supporting Rudy and his liberal policies, that's your prerogative.

It bothers me why a lot of people here (not you necessarily) have a hard time understanding why the majority of us here are repulsed at the idea that "conservatives" are willing to support someone who's policies are quite contrary to what we believe in. And when I say "what we believe in" I am using the definition that Jim gives here on FR; the stated views and goals of this forum. I've posted below Jim's comments from yesterday regarding FR "statement of purpose" (or whatever you want to call it).

Your question, "what is the conservative position on Elian Gonzales, Dubai ports deal, and Taiwan independence", are all good questions. But, to compare these issues with Rudy's liberal record and policies, it's apples and oranges, in my opinion.

I agree, FR is a great place to have spirited discussions on various issues. That's one of the things that drew me here to this place in October 2004. But, I do think it is important that everyone who comes here understands what this forum is all about and what FR stated goals and purposes are. If people come here for the purpose of trying to change what Jim has been fighting to accomplish all of these years, then they might just as well not be here.

I've noticed from reading several posts here lately that there is an awful lot of confusion about what FR is, and what the purpose of this forum is. Again, I'm not referring to you. I know you've been here long enough to know this place inside out. Just last night someone actually said, "FR is a republican forum". When another poster and I showed him Jim's statement on the FR home page, he was humble enought to admit he was wrong. Many here seem confused about this, and that's why I think there is a lot of frustration among some of the Rudy supporters, especially those who don't understand what FR is about. They think since Rudy has an R behind his name that we're all gonna jump on his bandwagon. Not gonna happen.

In my opinion, if Rudy is elected, Hillary wins. There's too many socons that could never pull the level for Rudy. Could I? I still can't answer that yet. As I've said before, it's way too early for us to have to commit ourselves to any one candidate. I prefer to wait the process out and see what happens. For those who have been screaming about Rudy having the best poll numbers and being the most electable republican out there, well, I have two words for them--Howard Dean. Is Rudy going to be able to keep his poll numbers high after more people learn about his liberal record, or when all the nasty dirt comes out on him from his ex-wife, son, enemies, etc? Only time will tell. Gotta go to work!

Have a great day FReeper!

Posted by Jim Robinson to wouldntbprudent
On News/Activism 03/04/2007 2:44:12 PM PST · 340 of 573

"From my statement posted to FR's home page many moons ago:

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.
401 posted on 03/05/2007 6:00:06 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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