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To: soccermom
Sure she was.

No, she wasn't. Faggot is derogatory term for homosexuals. It's also a derogatory term for heterosexual men who behave effeminately. What do you think she meant concerning Edwards?

She was engaging in baseless, inflammatory speculation.

No, what she was doing was make a very important and relevant point about a group of phonies who were doing real harm to real people and this country.

As I recall, the Jersey Girls were running around, campaigning for Kerry, and got very little attention.

I recall them very well. They got a lot of attention, and not just for the Kerry campaigning but for their testimony before the 9/11 Commission.

There were a lot of Coulter's critics who used those words as an opening to engage in baseless speculation about Coulter's personal life.

That was occuring long before she wrote Godless. In fact, she was the subjects of death threats and at least one physical assault. You ever hear her whine about it?

Certainly there were many factors that hurt the GOP, but I think comments like Coulter's helped to make the GOP look like the bad guys.

That's a fair point of view, although I don't agree with it, and regardless Ann, unlike Michael Moore, has not been lying about anything.

The reasons for the 2006 loss:

--Republican legislators acting like pandering Democratic hacks

--Attacks such as those made on Mark Foley and Curt Weldon and Rick Santorum -- and in Santorum's case none of them were deserved -- (did you see what the left is trying to do to his name?)

--Unremitting negative coverage of the Iraq War.

--More conservative Democratic candidates.

Ann Coulter's book had nada to do with the loss.

1,231 posted on 03/04/2007 11:51:42 AM PST by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Tribune7

1232 posts and the whining continues.


1,232 posted on 03/04/2007 11:53:12 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Tribune7
"No, she wasn't. Faggot is derogatory term for homosexuals. It's also a derogatory term for heterosexual men who behave effeminately. What do you think she meant concerning Edwards?" It is a derogatory term either way and an ad hominem attack. There are plenty of things about Edward's issues and his hypocritical behavior pertaining to those issues that she could have lampooned.

"No, what she was doing was make a very important and relevant point about a group of phonies who were doing real harm to real people and this country." There is nothing important or relevant about engaging in baseless speculation about the marriages of the Jersey girls. It was catty. But I suppose you think her comments about Playboy are relevant, too.

I recall them very well. They got a lot of attention, and not just for the Kerry campaigning but for their testimony before the 9/11 Commission. They got attention in the pundit circles, but average Americans had no clue who they were and they did nothing to help Kerry. It was Coulter who made them a household name -- and not in the way she had hoped. They got more sympathy and attention than they had before.

In fact, she was the subjects of death threats and at least one physical assault. You ever hear her whine about it? Yes, as a matter of fact, I did hear her complain about such things --- even a pie in the face. I don't know if "whine" is the word I would use, but she has every right to complain about such things. Pointing to their behavior is a good thing. That helped Bush immensely in the 2004 election. I think it was called "Faces of the Left" or something like that. The RNC put together an ad showing all the hatred from the left. Mind you, they didn't respond in kind -- he exposed them for what they were. It was particularly brilliant because it featured a "Hitler" ad from Moveon.org. Kerry raised a hissy fit, thinking the RNC had produced the Hilter ad and then he had egg on his face when it was pointed out that it came from his side.

That's a fair point of view, although I don't agree with it, and regardless Ann, unlike Michael Moore, has not been lying about anything. Certainly Michael Moore grossly outweighs Coulter both literally and on the lie scale, but I disagree with you claim that she's never lied. I consider baseless speculation about the personal lives of public figures to be lies or slander. And then there is the little matter of her providing false information for voter registration. Again, very minor compared to Moore's propaganda, but everyone lies.

"Ann Coulter's book had nada to do with the loss." Again, I disagree. If the book had slid under the radar, you might be right. But I think the coverage surrounding the Jersey Girl comments did, indeed, harm the image of conservatives and I think it helped validate the "Unremitting negative coverage of the Iraq War."
1,267 posted on 03/04/2007 5:36:24 PM PST by soccermom
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