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Libertarian, Constitution Party Leaders endorse Ron paul for President (2 Articles)

Posted on 02/28/2007 4:50:41 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian

Libertarian, Constitution Party Leaders endorse Ron paul for President (2 Articles)

Former LP Presidential Candidate Endorses Ron Paul For President

Michael Badnarik, the 2004 Libertarian Party candidate for President of the United States, has endorsed Republican Congressman Ron Paul (Texas) for President.

“My short term goal for the next two years is to make sure that Ron Paul is elected president in 2008,” Badnarik said Friday night at the New Hampshire Liberty Forum, a pro-liberty conference hosted by the Free State Project.

(…) In his Friday night keynote address, Badnarik, who is also a member of the Free State Project and plans to move to New Hampshire by the end of 2008, urged over 200 attendees to support Ron Paul for president by making campaign contributions and activating grassroots support.

“You cannot do it yourself,” he said. “You have to have wide, wide grassroots support.”

Badnarik also urged the Libertarian Party to nominate Ron Paul as well. “I hope the Libertarian Party is smart enough to say, ‘Oh ho, somebody we can trust!’ and nominate Ron Paul as our nominee,” he said. “We should set the Republican, Democrat, Libertarian labels aside, and vote for Ron Paul the person.”

Why do Evangelicals ignore Ron Paul? (Chuck Baldwin, 2004 VP Candidate, Constitution Party News)

Evangelical Christians are already beginning the process of selecting the Republican presidential candidate whom they can anoint as their successor to George W. Bush. Somehow, evangelicals have this deluded idea that President Bush is one of them. How they came to this delusion both fascinates and escapes me. Bush is anything but one of them. However, most evangelicals believe he is, and today it seems that illusion is greater than reality, anyway. Bush proves that more than anyone I have ever known. But enough about Bush.

The question burning in the minds of evangelicals today is: Which Republican candidate for president will we anoint?...

Ron Paul has served as a conservative congressman from Texas for over 16 years. He currently has a 100% rating from The Conservative Index, which is probably the most relevant and accurate reflection of a congressman’s true conservative record out there.

Furthermore, unlike most Republicans, Paul’s commitment to the life issue is more than rhetoric. For example, during the 2005 congressional session, Rep. Paul introduced H.R. 776, entitled the "Sanctity of Life Act of 2005."

Had it passed, H.R. 776 would have recognized the personhood of all unborn babies by declaring, "human life shall be deemed to exist from conception." The bill also recognized the authority of each State to protect the lives of unborn children. In addition, H.R. 776 would have removed abortion from the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, thereby nullifying the Roe v Wade decision, and would have denied funding for abortion providers. In plain language, H.R. 776 would have ended abortion on demand. (It is more than interesting to me that none of the evangelicals’ pet politicians, including George W. Bush, even bothered to support Paul’s pro-life bill.)

In addition, Ron Paul has been the most outspoken defender of constitutional government in the entire congress-bar none. He has often stood virtually alone against federal abuse of power, corruption, and big government.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitutionparty; cp; cutandrun; libertarianparty; lp; rino; ronpaul
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Thanks for the flag. I am grateful for all of the pro-life legislation Ron Paul has introduced and supported.


361 posted on 03/10/2007 2:46:59 PM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: Gelato
That's an interesting point, since it contradicts his own stated principle, that abortion is not a "constitutional" nor a "federal" issue. In any case, despite voting for the partial birth abortion ban, Ron Paul (like John McCain) has said abortion should be banned in the states rather than federally--which means that Ron Paul cannot be counted on to use the bully pulpit to advocate for federal ban on abortion.

Like I said, he wrestled with the question of "pro-life" vs. "federalism" and decided to vote for the pro-life bill, even though he's uncomfortable with expanding the powers of the Federal government.

Ron Paul can be counted on to appoint Justices who would overturn Roe; and at this stage in the process, that's plenty good enough for me. If you're able to get a National Pro-Life Amendment passed, then Abortion would become, ipso facto, a "Constitutional" issue. Ron Paul has always said he would uphold the Constitution to the letter (amendments and all).

So... if not Ron Paul, who's your pick for the Primaries?

362 posted on 03/11/2007 1:29:52 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: AmishDude
Now he's trying to be a high-order thinker -- which is not a prerequisite for medicine.

A "high-order thinker" -- as compared to Bush? Gore? Kerry? Paul is a giant amongst midgets in that crowd.

363 posted on 03/11/2007 1:31:11 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: The_Eaglet
Thanks for the flag. I am grateful for all of the pro-life legislation Ron Paul has introduced and supported.

I am grateful to you for your support.

I remember first encountering you, under my old screen name "Uriel1975", back in the 2000 Primaries when I was a Forbes fan arguing against the Keyes supporters over the issue of "Flat Tax" versus "National Sales Tax".

While I believe you preferred Keyes given the choice, I was impressed by your advocacy of the Constitution Party's stance that there should be NO direct taxation of individuals, and that rather Direct Taxes should be apportioned to the discretion of the several States according to the actual enumeration or census according to Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution. I was very impressed, and it changed my thinking about the whole issue.

Since that time, I have never seen you say one uncharitable thing to any other FReeper, or at least never anything personally demeaning, no matter how raucous the debate.

It's nice to be on the same side (though we weren't far apart, even back then). Your respectful decency is a welcome counterpoint to a curmudgeonly pit-fighter like myself. I salute your for your temperance and longsuffering.

May God bless you and yours.

OP

364 posted on 03/12/2007 9:54:44 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
I was wondering what happend to you!

advocacy of the Constitution Party's stance that there should be NO direct taxation of individuals, and that rather Direct Taxes should be apportioned to the discretion of the several States according to the actual enumeration or census according to Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution. I was very impressed, and it changed my thinking about the whole issue.

I believe Dr. Paul also advocates elimination of direct taxation at the federal level, which is another reason why he is my favorite Republican candidate (and Congressman).

Thanks for the kind words. The federal income tax should have been relegated to the 20th century.

365 posted on 03/12/2007 11:49:52 AM PDT by The_Eaglet (Stop RepubliCrat liberalism)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh

Are any of you familiar with the Heartland Institute?


366 posted on 03/18/2007 10:17:13 AM PDT by freeagle
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To: freeagle
Are any of you familiar with the Heartland Institute?

No, I honestly am not.

If you think it could be beneficial to the Campaign, tell me about it.

If an idea will be beneficial to the Campaign, please be assured that Ron Paul's senior aides will hear about it. When I want to talk to them, I don't talk to the office secretary. I call them directly.

367 posted on 03/19/2007 4:20:35 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ron Paul can be counted on to ...

How can you count on Ron Paul for anything? Despite what he says he stands for, he has shown his willingness to cut and run. You can't trust him in a real fight.
368 posted on 03/19/2007 4:46:21 AM PDT by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: deaconjim; The_Eaglet; DeaconBenjamin2; TheKidster; Austin Willard Wright
How can you count on Ron Paul for anything? Despite what he says he stands for, he has shown his willingness to cut and run. You can't trust him in a real fight.

As a devout Christian, Ron Paul believes that all Government Policy, including Foreign Policy, should be conducted according to the Teachings of Jesus.

He has openly and intensively discussed Christian Theology on the Floor of the United States House of Representatives to explain his Votes on this issue and others. How many other Congressman publicly ask "What Would Jesus Do" before they Vote on a matter, Deacon?

Do YOU believe that Jesus would support the expenditure of thousands of American Lives to prop up an Iraqi Government whose so-called "Constitution" openly recognizes the Satanic Religion of Islam as "the Prime Source of Law" (to say nothing of their past Terrorist ties - let's just ignore that for now)? Would Jesus support such an ABOMINATION?

Answer me that, DEACON, and then MAYBE I'll deal with your spurious, UnChristian accusations against an honorable man of God who began his career in the medical field getting our troops home from Vietnam alive.

369 posted on 03/19/2007 5:44:36 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Since you posted the same thing on another thread, I'll save a little typing and repost my answer here:

As a devout Christian, Ron Paul believes that all Government Policy, including Foreign Policy, should be conducted according to the Teachings of Jesus.

I too am a devout Christian, but apparently we are reading a different account of what Jesus taught. Could you please quote scripture and verse where Jesus advocates cowardice? Can you cite anwhere that Jesus says that devout Christians should cut and run like a scalded dog?

He has openly and intensively discussed Christian Theology on the Floor of the United States House of Representatives to explain his Votes on this issue and others. How many other Congressman publicly ask "What Would Jesus Do" before they Vote on a matter, Deacon?

I appluad him for doing so, and at the same time I disagree with his conclusions. If he thought that Jesus would run from a fight, he was mistaken. I can't trust him in the White House.

Do YOU believe that Jesus would support the expenditure of thousands of American Lives to prop up an Iraqi Government whose so-called "Constitution" openly recognizes the Satanic Religion of Islam as "the Prime Source of Law" (to say nothing of their past Terrorist ties - let's just ignore that for now)? Would Jesus support such an ABOMINATION?

We've had this argument before, and you lost. I won't spend a lot of time on it again. Jesus didn't prop up any government, so that is a false argument. We made a commitment to the people of Iraq, and they chose their government and their constitution. To cut and run is to abandon our commitment to the people of Iraq, and no I don't believe Jesus would have done that.

Answer me that, DEACON, and then MAYBE I'll deal with your spurious, UnChristian accusations against an honorable man of God who began his career in the medical field getting our troops home from Vietnam alive.

Judas began his career as an apostle, too. I don't think much of him either.
370 posted on 03/19/2007 6:13:29 AM PDT by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: deaconjim

I like Ron Paul in many respects, and believe that his positions are derived from his religious beliefs. However, Congressman Paul is an opponent of our foreign policy in the Mideast, despite the fact we were attacked on 9/11. Libertarian idealism on foreign policy and a return to isolationism are not viable options are not valid and even dangerous approached to international affairs where the waters are filled with sharks like radical Islam, Venezuela, and North Korea, as well as China and Russia. OTOH, I dislike Rudy Giuliani intensely, yet must admit he is realistic with respect to our foreign enemies.


371 posted on 03/19/2007 6:21:54 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
OTOH, I dislike Rudy Giuliani intensely, yet must admit he is realistic with respect to our foreign enemies.

Sorry, but I won't vote for anyone who thinks it is ok to kill unborn children. Conservatives can do better than either of these two candidates.
372 posted on 03/19/2007 6:27:00 AM PDT by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: deaconjim
Conservatives can do better than either of these two candidates.

Concur. Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo are two good examples of men who are solidly conservative, pro-life, and pro-defense.

373 posted on 03/19/2007 6:44:11 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
As a devout Christian, Ron Paul believes that all Government Policy, including Foreign Policy, should be conducted according to the Teachings of Jesus.

You keep on giving us good reasons to vote for Dr. Paul. Keep them coming.

374 posted on 03/19/2007 2:25:01 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
However, considering that The ruling government of Iraq is dominated by the psychopathic gang of murderers known as the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI) and the Islamic Al Dawa Party, who are the very same Islamic Terrorist Parties which bombed the US & French Embassies in Kuwait, and murdered 241 United States Marines in Beirut in 1983, I believe that Ron Paul is right in calling for a cutoff of US Military and Financial to this terrorist thug-regime.

Hizbullah bombed the Marine barracks in 1983.
Ron Paul has spent the last few months opposing any action against Iran and blasting Israel for defending itself against Hizbullah.
375 posted on 03/19/2007 8:39:29 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: rmlew
Hizbullah bombed the Marine barracks in 1983.

Hizbullah is nothing but the bastard child of the Iraqi Islamic Al Dawa Party, the Ruling Party of Iraq.

The Ruling Al Dawa Party of Iraq is composed of self-confessed, and even convicted, American-murdering Terrorist Scum. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate calling for an immediate END to all Military and Financial support for the criminal Islamic Terrorist thug-regime of Iraq.

376 posted on 03/21/2007 5:57:36 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: BillyBoy

“Libertarians (and small “l” libertarians too) are for unlimited immigration, legal or illegal.”

I can, off the cuff, name at least three L/libertarians who disagree, and thus in six short words prove your blanket statement wrong: Ron Paul, Neal Boortz, and LibertarianinExile. ALL of us are on record as being FOR enforcement of borders, FOR enforcement of our current immigration law, and FOR building a border wall...which certainly shows you’re slingin’ it. People like you embarrass your cause, because your misrepresentation of others’ stands is so transparent. I can’t speak for Boortz or Paul, but I’d be all for a 5 year moratorium on immigration, too.


377 posted on 06/22/2007 9:51:31 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("What a cruel reflection that a rich country cannot long be a free one." --Thomas Jefferson)
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