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To: nw_arizona_granny
In a hellish gulag in a remote region that was the heartland of Stalin's labour camps... The Karaganda jail where Abdulla is held is where Nobel prize-winning novelist Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich... The Karaganda region is home to the world's largest steel plant - and also has the highest AIDS rate in Kazakhstan.

I resent their comments on Karaganda, but I wish they had mentioned the HIV rate BEFORE I went :-O

Here's an article about the prison that Mr. Abdullah finds himself in (from the Karaganda paper "Noviy Vestnik" (New Herald), link removed:


...In Karabas, in the men's 'zone' to where our brigade headed right after Koksu, everything was different. At the entrance to AK 159/18, our eyes met a high, concrete barrier, crowned by large spirals with iron thorns. In contrast to the female penal colony, every building here is secured with iron bars and chicken-wire. Between these sets of metal-work there are narrow asphalted paths. One has the feeling that they are in some kind of a zoo. Only there are only no animals in the cages here, but people, all dressed the same in black.

The prison workers prepared for the journalists' visit much earlier. All the prisoners were sent to their barracks, and from the windows and balconies heads would pop out and shout something similar to greetings as we passed by. Sometimes something indecent, or they whistled and clucked their tongues.

We were first conducted to the dining room, then to the assembly hall. On the stage of this hangar-like building, a local vocal and instrumental ensemble was playing. From roaring speakers poured a lyrically composition about how a 'zehk' (criminal jargon: prisoner) will soon be released and return home to beg forgiveness of his mother for his sins. After listening to another three songs from this 'blatnoy' (criminal jargon: underworld) repertoire, we continued our excursion to the infirmary. The prison patients greeted us politely and settled onto their beds, allowing the cameraman to film them.

Under the letters Barmysyn bauyrym?*, we met with the prisoners on the sport grounds, through the center of which a volleyball net was stretched. Five men briefly told the Khabar TV crew about those whom they wished to find: father, daughter, mother. And they filled out forms that the television people held out to them. Only one, however, agreed to an in-depth interview.

In 1998, twenty-three year old Ruslan Kuriyev of Osakarovka beat someone badly. Back then he was charged under article 103 part 3, 'Causing grievous bodily harm'. "But I got scared, so I decided to go to Chechnya," Ruslan shyly smiles. "My mom lives there in Daragorsk village. In 2002, I went see my brother in Lipetsk, but while there the Russian police detained me and sent me on prison transport back to Kazakhstan. I tried to tell my brother about it, but I'm not sure that he got my message. It's possible that mom still doesn't know where I'm at and what happened. So here I decided to write a letter for the show."

At the end we looked in on one of the cellblocks. A broad-shouldered fellow with a black rosary in his hands met us.

"You couldn't make up on one of the bunks, could you?" a lady journalist asked him. "We need some pictures."

"Right away," the fellow turned and called to someone in an adjacent room. Within a minute, several men had turned the barracks into a hive of activity. Someone was making the bunks, someone was washing the floor, someone else was reading a letter from home. The prisoner with the rosary, very pleased with himself, watched them all from the threshold.

The men's barracks was very different from the women's. The rooms were much smaller. The order was somewhat ideal, but there was something missing, just like in a bachelor's apartment.

And the prisoners' faces. They were looking at us, as if we had arrived from another planet.

"Oh, you haven't seen the HIV patients yet. You go to them, and you'll want to run out of there as fast as you can. The appearance of a woman for them, it's like a holiday," the head of the UKUIS education department said to us later...
Barmysyn bauyrym? = "Brother, where are you?" (Kazakhstani language)
2,434 posted on 03/19/2007 2:41:27 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter

That single strand barbed wire, it is more wicked than the regular/modern fence wire.

LOL, I once had a nice collection of it, from the travels around the old mines.

Is that an area that the aids was developed?

If you got a very long sentence you would have to come out with aids.

Thanks for the article, those googles looked as tho they would be full of articles, never enough time to read it all and I will spread myself too far, attempting to 'see' it all.

Thank you for the article, do you notice that in Russia, the colors are all depressing?

It always amazes me the colors the African countries have in their cloth, and live in a leaf hut, but Russia is always dark colors.

The fashion world uses the greyed colors in the depression era and the brighter colors are used in the good times. [here] .... You can/will also notice it in the quilts of the ages.


2,435 posted on 03/19/2007 7:29:28 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (How are your survival supplies? Today is a good one, for stocking up, food, medicine, & protection.)
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