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Post 9/11, Islam flourishes among blacks
Reuters ^ | Sun Feb 25, 2007 | Matthew Bigg

Posted on 02/25/2007 9:30:03 AM PST by US admirer

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To: Milligan

Could it have anything to do with black racists finding a home. It is obvious that there will be extreme violence one day if they are not just publicly named and condemned for what they are.

They are black racists. They should be publicly put down just like the kkk.


41 posted on 02/25/2007 10:51:23 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen (Nancy Pelosi is Tokyo Rose)
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To: aculeus
Muslims dominated the slave trade in Africa.

An incomplete statement.

Africans dominated the trade from East and Central Africa to north Africa and the Middle East. This trade started many centuries before the European "Christian" trade across the Atlantic got going and lasted most of a century longer. To some extent it is still in operation.

However, Muslims were never dominant in any part of the Atlantic slave trade, as they were walled off from the coast by a belt of powerful pagan kingdoms. Some of the slaves may have originally been captured by Muslims, but they were seldom sold directly to Europeans by Muslims.

The Muslim slave trade never got anywhere close in volume to the Atlantic trade in its glory years. Nevertheless, its much longer existence means the total number of slaves in the two trades is roughly equal.

Interestingly, there are relatively few descendants of the slaves in the ME today. This is because most of the women were used for domestic service and not allowed to breed. Many of the black men were made into eunuchs, a little detail you seldom hear about when discussing the wonderfulness of Islam for blacks.

BTW, it is likely that the death rate of the caravans across the Sahara was even greater than the death rate in the slave ships, which has been exaggerated for political reasons. I sympathize with the motives of those doing the exaggerating, but am philosphically opposed to distorting history even for the best of purposes.

42 posted on 02/25/2007 10:53:22 AM PST by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: US admirer

Why don't we get serious, take away the oil weapon and reveal what a failure Islam is, so that all can then see losers joining losers.


43 posted on 02/25/2007 10:58:50 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: US admirer
This is very serious especially when we also see many Black conversions to Islam in jails and a Mosque being built in a Black area of Pompano, FL. This quote is from the article below:

Another black minister in the area warned they would "try to convert young black men."

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/07/15/Worldandnation/Seeking_a_new_mosque_.shtml

Seeking a new mosque, they find a cultural turf war

A Muslim congregation is stunned when black leaders in Pompano Beach angrily protest their building plans.

By MEG LAUGHLIN
Published July 15, 2006

POMPANO BEACH - Two years ago, the congregation of a small but growing mosque in Pompano Beach raised money to expand because it needed more parking.

Mosque leaders, filled with hope, chose a patch of land in a predominantly black area.

"They picked that spot because they were sympathetic to the black struggle and believed the feelings were mutual, especially since the persecution after 9/11," said Altaf Ali of CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

They began attending zoning meetings in the summer of 2004. As expected, everything went smoothly. The new mosque would have a social hall, basketball court and playground, open to all. It would also be a storm shelter and a place to vote.

The local zoning board gave a routine go-ahead in May. Then, things got strange.

"Our dream suddenly turned into a nightmare," said Hasan Sabri, the imam of the Islamic Center of South Florida.

Several black ministers and civic leaders, led by the Rev. O'Neal Dozier, pastor of Worldwide Christian Center near the mosque site, protested in mid June at the commission meeting.

In the 22 years of the mosque's existence several miles away, no one in Dozier's church had complained. But now that it was moving closer, they had plenty to say.

They didn't want a mosque in their neighborhood, they said. They wanted affordable housing. Dozier called Muslims "dangerous," said they were "terrorists." Another black minister in the area warned they would "try to convert young black men." A black commissioner said Muslim shopkeepers were "not good business partners."
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44 posted on 02/25/2007 11:12:36 AM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: US admirer
"They (the government) unplug black people and plug in Arabs or Muslims. They unplug Arabs and plug in communists. America needs war to maintain it's economic status," he said.

So, the government needs war against the blacks to maintain it's economic status?

It's more like the "war on poverty" was a multi trillion dollar effort to lift many blacks out of poverty.

45 posted on 02/25/2007 11:13:56 AM PST by oldbrowser (First, Do No Harm.)
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To: US admirer
If you ask any black American if there was ever a time in American history when blacks could have been considered second class citizens, I'm sure virtually every one would say yes. So why would blacks want to belong to a "religion" that considers all non-Arabs to be second class people? In Africa, Arabs look down on all blacks, muslim or not. In fact, many blacks in Africa deny their own race and claim to be Arabs because the stigma is so great.
46 posted on 02/25/2007 11:55:28 AM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: US admirer
they're the perfect "victim"....to declare war on America...

think about it... they've been brought up to always feel that nothing they do supersedes "blackness".

Any attempt at success is belittled as "going white". Look at the derisive comments about Condoleezza Rice by the libs, the dems and even comedians like Chappell....

so now they get to be in a multimillion member gang that has all the latest hardware and can blow sh#t up!

Now instead of "building" something they get to tear down America and start over.... it's the same envy card that is played by all totalitarian schemes. Create chaos, make sure that so many laws are made then selectively enforce them on your enemies, imprison or financially cripple your enemies and come in to save the day by handing out crumbs to your followers.

Blacks make up 10% of the population.... if you looked on TV you'd think they were 50% of the population, it's a joke.

The muslims and all those that support them are heading towards a bad end. This country is like a big old sleepy wolf.... ya pick on it, ya poke it with a stick and then it wakes up and gnaws your neck off.....

we imprisoned Japanese and Germans 50-60 years ago.... if bombs start going off or mass homicide occurs then there will be a reckoning, and it ain't gonna be pretty.

....but if you ask the muslim or black..they get a blank look, shrug and say, "so what?"...

So I say, "game on". Lets roll.

47 posted on 02/25/2007 12:16:47 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Sherman Logan
KAM The Eastern Slave Trade
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Classroom/9912/easterntrade.html

"Holocaust: The Numbers

Due to the enormous length of the Arab Slave Trade, from 700 to 1911AD, it is impossible to be certain of the numbers of Africans sold in this system. Estimates place the numbers somewhere around 14 million: at least 9.6 million African women and 4.4 African men.

It has been estimated that in all, at least 14 to 20 MILLION African men, women and children died throughout this trade. (Photos and Information courtesy of The Black Holocaust for Beginners by SE Anderson, A Pictorial History of the Slave Trade, Slave Trade of Eastern Africa by Beachy, Slavery in the Arab World by Gordon Murray and Africa in History by Basil Davidson)"
48 posted on 02/25/2007 12:19:25 PM PST by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Some more interesting facts:

The Origins of the African Slave Trade
http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/slavetra.html


European slave trade by destination

Brazil: 4,000,000 35.4%
Spanish Empire: 2,500,000 22.1%
British West Indies: 2,000,000 17.7%
French West Indies: 1,600,00 14.1%
British North America: 500,000 4.4%
Dutch West Indies: 500,000 4.4%
Danish West Indies: 28,000 0.2%
Europe: 200,000 1.8%
Total 1500-1900: 11,328,000 100.0%
Source: "The Slave Trade", Hugh Thomas, 1997
49 posted on 02/25/2007 12:28:46 PM PST by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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To: US admirer

The other enemy among us.


50 posted on 02/25/2007 12:30:36 PM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Chgogal

Fascinating, isn't it?

5% or less of the slaves went to what is now the US.

But which country is generally considered the most guilty for slavery and the destruction the trade caused in Africa?


51 posted on 02/25/2007 2:48:12 PM PST by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: Squawk 8888

The perception of blacks as slaves is embedded in the Arabic language, even today. A common word in the Arab world for a black person is "abd", which literally means "servant" or "slave." Some younger Arabs are taught to shun the term, which now has the same connotations as the n-word over here. Nevertheless, it speaks volumes about what Islamic culture really believes about "oppressed" peoples.


52 posted on 02/25/2007 2:55:56 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: US admirer

I read this and wanted to scream. The same people who ENSLAVED MILLIONS OF AFRICANS is now a religion embraced by African-Americans? Don't they know that slavery among AFRICANS still exists in AFRICA in Islamic countries?

I also want to give my appreciation to Reuters for not even having the energy to type a few keys on their keyboards to look at the slave trade between West Africa and the Islamic nations north of the Saraha. It isn't often my sense outrage extends to all caps. Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh.


53 posted on 02/25/2007 4:40:27 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: Chgogal; Sherman Logan

Here are the stats by country.

By slave-trading country:

Portugal/Brazil: 4,650,000
Spain: 1,600,000
France: 1,250,000
Holland: 500,000
Britain: 2,600,000
U.S.A.: 300,000
Denmark: 50,000
Others: 50,000
Total: 11,000,000
Source: "Slave Trade", Hugh Thomas, 1977


54 posted on 02/25/2007 6:29:47 PM PST by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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To: aculeus
Idiots. Muslims dominated the slave trade in Africa.

I think most in this country would ask.."Who dominated the slave trade in North America?"

Attitudes are shaped by the experiences. For most in this country that means what you learned from your parents and grandparents and how you saw them treated by others. They won't be based on you originally captured your ancestor 400 years ago.

55 posted on 02/25/2007 6:55:32 PM PST by CJ-50
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To: US admirer
Consider the source - Reuters.

A bigger pack of liars, propagandists and fifth columnists you will not find.

56 posted on 02/25/2007 7:26:37 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: US admirer
There's a whole lot of stupid going on out there.......
57 posted on 02/25/2007 7:29:00 PM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: US admirer
It is an emotional response. It is civilizational treason, or at least an act of rebellion against the WEst, which they feel has oppressed them. That African Americans are much better off than African or that Muslims took part in the Slave trade and still do so is irrelevent to them.
It is infantile at best, treasonous at worst.
58 posted on 02/26/2007 1:04:47 AM PST by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: MichiganConservative

I'm Black and I care about Slavery today.


59 posted on 02/26/2007 3:52:18 AM PST by Garvin (As an American, I want to win in Iraq!)
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To: Garvin

It was sarcasm. Sometimes my sarcasm isn't obvious. I know there are people across the spectrum who really do care about today's slavery.


60 posted on 02/26/2007 7:35:35 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Your government is your freedom's biggest enemy.)
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